JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
Yes interesting but we already seen

16-214 in PAF camo on 04/04/16 at PAC
We seen 2P-20 in yellow primer on 13/07/16 at PAC

I think we are up to around 16-225 now
 

delft

Brigadier
From East Pendulum:
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Le 1er Novembre dans l’après-midi,
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, ces derniers ont confirmé « avec certitude » l’achat de l’avion de chasse sino-pakistanaais FC-1.

Quant à la quantité concernée par cette acquisition, les officiers birmans ont refusé d’y répondre. Mais selon
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, une commande de 16 appareils aurait été passée avec un prix unitaire de 35 millions de dollar US.
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Myanmar air force officers confirmed that the country is buying FC-1's, didn't say how many, Israeli sources said in January that the number is 16 at a price of $35m each.
 

Franklin

Captain
This would be the most accurate representation of the JF-17B. I wonder if it will have a AESA radar and could the changes on the airframe be an indication of JF-17 block III ?

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Diffrence with the JF-17A.

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Deino

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Diffrence with the JF-17A.

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Sorry, but the IMO only visible difference is the second cockpit and reportedly a slightly longer front fuselage. Everything else is exactly the same.

- the bulge in blue seems only more pronounced due to different lightning.
- the afterburner nozzle in red is simply closed on the B and open on the A.
- and the tail in yellow is the same .

Deino
 

Quickie

Colonel
Sorry, but the IMO only visible difference is the second cockpit and reportedly a slightly longer front fuselage. Everything else is exactly the same.

- the bulge in blue seems only more pronounced due to different lightning.
- the afterburner nozzle in red is simply closed on the B and open on the A.
- and the tail in yellow is the same .

Deino

It looks to me the changes are really there in the 3 circled region. The changes actually make the aircraft more attractive visually. Might as well extend the changes to the single seat version.
 

Dizasta1

Senior Member
Question: Are the antennas/sensors which are clearly visible on the nose of JF-17A (not in pictures above) be replaced by fairings like they have on F/A-18E Super Hornets?
 

dingyibvs

Junior Member
@Dizasta1

Hi,

Your aircraft means nothing by itself----it is always in relation to the strenghts---weaknesses---abilities and capabilities of the enemy aircraft---and its other complimentary assets---.

When you are looking at the COSTS in matters of weapons superiority---then one should bury their heads where there is no light---.

A prime minister made a massive weapons deal when the nation was extremely poor and at a financial loss----there was a lots of criticism on the PM---but the PM never replied---.

After the retirement---when a writer interviewing the PM for a Biography---this same question was asked----" why you spent so much money on weapons purchase when the economy of the country was in shambles "---.

The retd prime replied---I read the life history of Prophet Mohammad----at the time of his death---there was no money to buy oil for the lamp---His wife Ayesha mortgaged a shield to buy oil------but there were 9 swords hanging on the walls of His house---. That was my inspiration.


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Meir knew about their stand, and said, "Your doubt are well founded, but if we win this war, and defeat the Arabs, history will remember us as the victors, and in history, once a community is know as the victor, it forgets how many eggs they ate and how many times they had food. Whether there was jam, honey, butter on the table, and how many holes they had in their shoes. Or whether the sheaths of their swords were new or old! A conqueror is a conqueror."

Based on Meir's solid logic, the Israeli cabinet approved the deal. Later it was proved that the decision taken by Meir was right, and the whole world witnessed the Jews knocking on the doors of the Arabs with this artillery. A war took place, and the Arabs faced a shameful defeat at the hands of an old lady.

After a gap of one decade after the war, a reporter of the Washington Post interviewed Meir, asking "Was the logic you had in your mind for the arms was spur of the moment decision or you had had an advance strategy?"

Meir's reply was very surprising.

She answered, "I got this logic from the prophet (of the Muslims) Mohammed (peace be upon him). When I was a student, my favorite topic was comparative study of religions. Those days I studied the life of Mohammed (PBUH). One author stated that when Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) died, there was not enough money to buy oil for a lamp, his wife (Ayesha Siddiqua) mortgaged his battle shield to buy oil, yet there were nine swords hung on the wall of his house.

When I read this account, it occurred to me- how many people in the world would have known about the worst economic condition of Islamic state? But everyone recognizes them as conquerors of half the world. So I decided that I would buy arms at any cost; even if we would have to starve or to live in camps instead of buildings, but we would prove ourselves as the victor".

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That kind of attitude can help one decide how much to spend on defense, but once the budget is set and you want to maximize what you can get with that budget, then cost comes into play. If a weapon is 80% as effective at 50% the cost, then it's better to get twice the number of the inferior weapon no matter what budget you have.
 

MastanKhan

Junior Member
@dingyibvs

Hi,

When dealing with modern technology---you need to be within 95-97% of the opponents capabilities.

80% was more for the days of old---when you wanted to merge and Duke it out---.

Now with the outrageous costs of these machines and the money spent on training the pilots---just the thought of taking chances---has long been thrown out of the 'thinking process' awhile ago.

You have to have some of your aircraft compete with enemy's aircraft.
 
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