JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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During the competition PAF fighter pilots from all weapon systems exhibited highest level of professionalism through sound planning, optimum employment and unmatched pin point weapon deliveries. After a close competition No-11 Multirole Squadron (F-16 blk-15 MLU) achieved highest score and was awarded the Armament Competition Trophy.


Squadron Leader Tariq Waheed Malik was awarded the coveted Sher Afgan Trophy for being the best marksman in the competition.

The competition commenced on 16 November, 2015. All PAF Fighter Squadrons were evaluated for operational readiness under competitive environment and assessed for weapon system performance in various tactical scenarios including weapon deliveries at tactical range. This year competition was special with the inclusion of JF-17 Thunder, F-16 Block-52 and F-16 in the exercise. The main highlight of the competition was exceptional performance by the JF-17 Thunder aircraft and it reaffirmed its position as the 'frontline fighter' of the PAF

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[Blackstone]

During the competition PAF fighter pilots from all weapon systems exhibited highest level of professionalism through sound planning, optimum employment and unmatched pin point weapon deliveries. After a close competition No-11 Multirole Squadron (F-16 blk-15 MLU) achieved highest score and was awarded the Armament Competition Trophy.

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Squadron Leader Tariq Waheed Malik was awarded the coveted Sher Afgan Trophy for being the best marksman in the competition.

The competition commenced on 16 November, 2015. All PAF Fighter Squadrons were evaluated for operational readiness under competitive environment and assessed for weapon system performance in various tactical scenarios including weapon deliveries at tactical range. This year competition was special with the inclusion of JF-17 Thunder, F-16 Block-52 and F-16 in the exercise. The main highlight of the competition was exceptional performance by the JF-17 Thunder aircraft and it reaffirmed its position as the 'frontline fighter' of the PAF

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Bottom line is F-16s won the competition, so what advantages did it have over the JF-17s?

 

[plawolf]

Bottom line is F-16s won the competition, so what advantages did it have over the JF-17s?

Blk15 won over both Blk52 and JF17, so it was down to pilot skill rather than technical sophistication that was the deciding factor.

Given how new the JF17 and Blk52s are, its little wonder veteran Blk15 pilots are more proficient with their machines.

Give it a few years for the pilots to get more practiced with their new planes and I would expect the results to be very different.

 

[LonE_WolF]

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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan will acquire the fifth generation multi-role fighter aircraft from the international market but, for the time being, it will devote its full attention on its state-of-the-art JF-17 Thunder to make it the most effective of its generation.

It has been revealed by Chief of the Air Staff (CAS) Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman while talking exclusively with The News here on Wednesday evening. He said that Pakistan wouldn’t lag behind the countries of the region in obtaining the fifth generation planes and it has opened negotiations with the US manufacturers for exploring options of buying single engine multirole F-35 viewed as the plane of the next decade.

At least three other options are under consideration. The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) could be equipped with aircraft of fifth generation within five years. Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman said that Indians were buying 126 French Rafale calling them as fifth generation planes but after discussion of years and hitches, they had decided to buy 36 planes at the end of the day and still the deal was in troubled waters.

“I am not prepared to acknowledge Rafale as a plane of the fifth generation since its features are confined to the fourth generation’s planes,” the CAS maintained.

He said that Indian Air Force (IAF), despite having a numerical edge, doesn’t have superiority over Pakistan since Pakistan has planned its air strength in a way where no aggression could work against it. The PAF’s devotion and skill is second to none and for the reason it is graded one of the best air powers of the world, he said.


“We will never let the nation down in any eventuality or test. People have faith in their armed forces and they are very rightly doing so,” he added. He disclosed that Thunder JF-17 was being sold to four countries without disclosing the buyers and number of the planes. He said that it has become difficult to supply all the ordered aircraft within the stipulated time-frame but we will fulfill our obligations.

The JF-17 to be supplied by Pakistan would be the best in quality as Pakistan wouldn’t compromise on the standards. He said that the operation in the tribal areas was almost complete but some pockets were being cleared.

Without giving any deadline, he said that the whole area would be cleared of terrorists and their facilitators soon. “No deadline for declaring the end of the operation can be given in such operations since you never know what could sneak in from across the borders. The operation has gone in an excellent way and the PAF did its duty in an exemplary manner.”

The air chief said that the PAF was also playing its role in the Karachi operation and he had issued instructions afresh today (Wednesday) morning to accelerate its part of activities to curb terrorism.

 

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Bottom line is F-16s won the competition, so what advantages did it have over the JF-17s?

'30 year experience' of more proficient manpower ..... 'man behind the machine'

 

[asif iqbal]

Yes PAF is a master of all scenarios with F16 A/B units with vast experience and knowledge at WVR and ground attack just like the Turkish are with F16 C/D at BVR

I hope the JF-17 allows PAF to also master the BVR combat with SD-10

 

[SinoSoldier]

There is a rumor that only thirty Block II aircraft will be procured and that they are already moving on to the Block III. Can anybody confirm this; when will the Block III fly?

 

[MastanKhan]

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” he added. He disclosed that Thunder JF-17 was being sold to four countries without disclosing the buyers and number of the planes. He said that it has become difficult to supply all the ordered aircraft within the stipulated time-frame but we will fulfill our obligations.

The JF-17 to be supplied by Pakistan would be the best in quality as Pakistan wouldn’t compromise on the standards.

Hi,

Thank you for the post and the link----that was the most important part of the news that was hidden----4 buyers-----very interesting.

 

[plawolf]

I honestly don't know what to make of the 5th gen claims.

Will the US clear Pakistan for F35 sales?

 

[Zahid]

I honestly don't know what to make of the 5th gen claims.

Will the US clear Pakistan for F35 sales?

Maybe, maybe not. However there is no explicit restriction against a possible sale. This statement could mean that PAF wants F-35, which is but natural for an airforce which was built around American warplanes. It could also mean that Pakistan is keeping its option open for a show of possible leverage.

I think PAF would eventually settle for FC-31, but I could be wrong.