kwaigonegin
Colonel
I don't see them even at all similar LOL. a 30' difference in length and over 1000 ibs in weight? No they are VERY different engines and simply quite impossible to fit one in the other.
JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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Ultra
Junior Member
Perhaps I was too quick to post that without thinking it through!
I actually thought about it some more and realize the center of gravity would be changed dramatically as a heavier and longer engine would have on the airframe's aerodynamics, and I was editing my previous post to reflect that when it timed out...
(10 minutes rule SUCKS!)Anyway, there are other western jet engines that offers more power in similar dimensions as I pointed out in my previous post - namely the EJ200 and F414. What's your opinion of those?
Never mind !
Regarding the Western engine options ... ??!!! To admit it all depends on politics and money but regardless what any European politician would like to sell to country XYZ ... they - at least right now - wont allow the delivery of a modern turbofan to China even if it would be for integration work only.
Deino
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Forgive me, but I'm a bit old fashioned
As for avionics, as far as I know radar remained the same , don't know much about EW suite (it's classified ) , IRST is still not integrated (internally) ... I don't know , somehow I expected more . Personal opinion, of course .
Some tidbit from Pakistan Ministry of Defence production Book 2013-2014 (can be seen on modp.gov.pk)
Page 43-45
Facilities for Co-production of JF-17 Avionics Systems. Following salient activities were undertaken in respect of production and testing group:-
Co-production of CATIC Avionics Systems.
Production of Global Attitude Heading Reference System (GAHRS).
Production of KLJ-7 Radar.
Production of Radar Altimeter.
Production of Indigenous Avionics Systems.
Development of Production Management System (PMS) for Paperless Production Documentation.
Integration Activities: Following activities were executed by integration group:-
EW Suite Controller (EWSC): M/s Indra’s EW Suite Controller (EWSC) pre-integration was successfully accomplished in DSI Lab. Chaff & Flare Dispenser (CFD) made by Air Weapons Complex (AWC) has also been interfaced with EWSC, and pre-integration has been verified in DSI lab.
P.S. Pakistan also bought ALR-400 RWR from same company Indra. A fact confirmed in MODP book 2011-2012 Page 57 Item No. 16. Specs of ALR-400 RWR (Indra is a spanish company)
Design, Development and Deletion (DDD): The following indigenous design / development activities were undertaken at DDD:
Audio Control Panel (ACP) & RF Reverser Unit (RRU).
IFF Transponder.
Avionics Activation Panel (AAP).
IFF Conversion Box (ICB).
Smart Multi-Function color Display (SMFCD).
Up Front Control Panel (UFCP).
Missile Tone Circuit (MTC).
Secure Mode Unit (SMU).
Back up Acquisition Computer (BAC).
Black Rose NVIS Compatibility.
Independent Volume Control of RWR (JF-17).
Rheostat Box.
Warning Control Box (WCB).
JF-17 Maintenance Simulator Panels.
JF-17 Full Mission Simulator Panels
Indigenous efforts were undertaken to recover display issues of JF-17.Aircraft maintenance simulator held at JF-17 FTC, PAF Base Minhas.
asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
Great to see JF-17 in shows around world it shows a presence and it shows the flag and it's really important this continues
I mean after all how many years did it take Rafale to get the Indian, Egypt and Qatar orders? Things take time and I am sure JF-17 will bag a foreign export order
Adding in block II is a milestone and block III is on the cards
I would like to see a two seater version for foreign air forces it will add to its export appeal and China could build that unit pretty fast and it's scheduled for next year
A package of K-8, Super Mushshak and JF-17 would be a great Air Force package for many air forces around the world
I also hope we can start to see jamming pods and targeting pods being carried by the JF-17 in addition to land attack cruise missiles and anti ship missiles
The full spectrum of weapons makes the JF-17 a ideal fighter
I mean after all how many years did it take Rafale to get the Indian, Egypt and Qatar orders? Things take time and I am sure JF-17 will bag a foreign export order
Adding in block II is a milestone and block III is on the cards
I would like to see a two seater version for foreign air forces it will add to its export appeal and China could build that unit pretty fast and it's scheduled for next year
A package of K-8, Super Mushshak and JF-17 would be a great Air Force package for many air forces around the world
I also hope we can start to see jamming pods and targeting pods being carried by the JF-17 in addition to land attack cruise missiles and anti ship missiles
The full spectrum of weapons makes the JF-17 a ideal fighter
Not sure if already posted .... anyway nothing really new but one small detail !
What is new to me that they mention PT-05 !!! I always thought that after 04 the next aircraft was 06 - maybe since 05 was reserved to be the twin-seater - but now it seems as if there was in fact a fifth prototype.
Anyone with more information ?
Deino
What is new to me that they mention PT-05 !!! I always thought that after 04 the next aircraft was 06 - maybe since 05 was reserved to be the twin-seater - but now it seems as if there was in fact a fifth prototype.
Anyone with more information ?
Deino
SinoSoldier
Colonel
Makes you wonder why China isn't proactive in showcasing export items. They could've at least sent a J-10B or J-31 to the Paris Airshow.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
From my understanding they are not approved for export. But then Pakistan is a different story.