Re: Japanese Defence Minister: Helicopter & DDG "locked on" by Chinese Frigates' Ra
Why do you insist on ignoring what other people are saying and sticking to your own misconception? For the last time, we're not arguing for Chinese soldiers to land on DYT. We're arguing for Chinese *civilians*, backed by *civilian* law enforcement.
Let's see how Japan looks when they send commando squads against scientists and policemen.
What you insist on ignoring is that anything short of the Chinese military will result in eviction, so your scenario could only be accomplished by including them in the landing. Any "civilian" law enforcement will also get evicted. Any "civilian" law enforcement armed with deadly weapons will give the Japanese a perfect excuse to use their own weapons and bring in much more powerful forces than just "civilian law enforcement", and as I said, Japan has a much wider latitude for escalation than China does because Japan is the current administrator of DYT, not China.
Umm, no. Your comment about the DF-21D's was directed at non-participant nations in the Pacific, and your claim was that they would not dare to side against China because China could stick some DF-21D's up their asses. This is not an issue of "defending" China's sovereignty, but would instead be a blatantly arrogant and needless act of aggression which would in fact achieve the exact opposite of its intended purpose.
Yes it is. The DF-21D is a weapon use for self defense regardless of who the enemy is. China has every right to defend themselves against all foreign aggression right?
First of all, DF-21D is an antiship weapon, hardly something used in self-defense. Second, using such a weapon to intidimate smaller nations is stupid, useless, non-defensive, and as I said, will achieve exactly opposite of the intended effect.
Aren't you doing the same thing under estimating China PLA? Scenarios doesn't came up whenever you wanted it to. These are Chinese territories since yesterday, today, and for tomorrow, no matter how much you scream false.
What the tart are you screaming about yourself? When did I deny that DYT is a "Chinese territory"? In fact, instead of ludicrously jumping into the middle of the discussion without reading what I have previously written, you should read the previous posts and try to catch up to where everybody else is before making these ridiculous conclusions.
There's NOTHING "complicated" about it. It's China's sovereign territory pure and simple. You can cry wolf all you want because it will not change the fact.
Beating your chest and trying to sound like some kind of simple, brave man standing up for Chinese pride earns you exactly
ZERO points here. Catch up and get a clue. Everybody here agrees that DYT by historical right belongs to China. This does NOT mean I have to stupidly agree with you that China needs to send some missiles into other countries that don't side with China as some surreal act of 'self-defense' (what a ridiculous joke), or that China's current intrests are best served by sending people to try and physically try to wrest control of DYT from Japan, or that Japan and the US will fold like lawn chairs because China is so great and awesome and powerful now that they will lay down and kowtow instead of respond militarily with overwhelming force against a Chinese incursion against DYT. If nothing further is done to escalate this situation, China has already won this round. Japan's "nationalization" of DYT has done absolutely nothing for them politically, but instead has given China the perfect excuse to start routine sea and air patrols in close proximity to DYT, something they have not done before. Instead of uselessly chestthumping, browbeating, and grandstanding, people would do better to calm down and realize the situation as it stands now has actually improved China's position wrt the DYT territorial dispute.
