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SunlitZelkova

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Don't they have their advanced AAM-4 missiles, what happened lol.

F-35A can't use AAM-4, but the F-35A is going to replace the majority of Japan's fighters in the coming years. Only a small number of F-15Js will remain, probably those that underwent MSIP upgrades in the 2000s. I would imagine they would be concentrated in Hokkaido, with the F-35s going to Western Japan (which now has higher priority than Hokkaido in terms of where new equipment goes first).

I looked at the comments section, but it wasn't very interesting. Most comments believe that the author is an outdated person and that the performance of this light aircraft carrier is very limited. And mocked him for using many dialect words.
But at the same time, the comment section also showed a strong intention of confrontation. They demand to amend the constitution and replace the leadership that is too 'weak',And strengthen military preparedness to resist possible 'aggression'.
Obviously, they have considerable confidence in Japan's strength, so I wish they could bear the cost of raising the consumption tax.

Japan has its own version of the Fellas unfortunately. I would not be surprised if armed reunification was to begin and the then Japanese PM is to decline to intervene (assuming the US does too), that PM's life would probably be in danger. In 1960, when the Japan Socialist Party's leader dared to say that the US was the true enemy of both Japan and China, he was killed for that. Since then what passes for the left wing in Japanese politics has offered only weak criticism of the US-Japan Security Treaty, bases and crimes of US servicemen in Okinawa, etc.

If whoever is leading the LDP if/when armed reunification begins has the balls to choose the path to peace, it will probably splinter. It would ironically be an excellent opportunity for a left wing party to seize power, especially if influenced by other factors (worsening economy due to demographic crisis, etc.). Alas I am only fantasizing; at this time there is no outlook for such a situation.
 

tygyg1111

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F-35A can't use AAM-4, but the F-35A is going to replace the majority of Japan's fighters in the coming years. Only a small number of F-15Js will remain, probably those that underwent MSIP upgrades in the 2000s. I would imagine they would be concentrated in Hokkaido, with the F-35s going to Western Japan (which now has higher priority than Hokkaido in terms of where new equipment goes first).



Japan has its own version of the Fellas unfortunately. I would not be surprised if armed reunification was to begin and the then Japanese PM is to decline to intervene (assuming the US does too), that PM's life would probably be in danger. In 1960, when the Japan Socialist Party's leader dared to say that the US was the true enemy of both Japan and China, he was killed for that. Since then what passes for the left wing in Japanese politics has offered only weak criticism of the US-Japan Security Treaty, bases and crimes of US servicemen in Okinawa, etc.

If whoever is leading the LDP if/when armed reunification begins has the balls to choose the path to peace, it will probably splinter. It would ironically be an excellent opportunity for a left wing party to seize power, especially if influenced by other factors (worsening economy due to demographic crisis, etc.). Alas I am only fantasizing; at this time there is no outlook for such a situation.
Not a bad thing - split, and reunify as a Chinese province :cool:
 

tygyg1111

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I was talking about the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan. Japan would be as terrible a province of China as Korea or Vietnam.
A split Japan will be an excellent opportunity for China. Given that Japan will remain Japanese (read untrustworthy) for as long as it is allowed to, supporting the left leaning side during a split, escalating the strong civil discontent with the right and slowly bringing them over, first as a vassal and then as a 'close neighbor who is almost kin' is an opportunity to de-unify and de-Japanize Japan and incorporate it piece by piece into Chinese territory under terms favorable to China
 
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kurutoga

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China doesn't want Japan as territory: lots of liabilities, the benefit is minimal. The only potential request from China side is the independence of Okinawa. The Chinese gov in the past had been vague on that issue.

In the short term, the biggest potential military risk between Japan and China involves Taiwan, and the US military use of military bases in Japan during the Taiwan conflict.
 

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Delivery of the first AN/SPY-7 antenna to the Japan for their ASEV program. this news for me is important as it mention the antenna height, which is 4.3 meter. Unlike Raytheon with their SPY-6. LRDR choose very different TRM arrangement, which seems to embrace more integration and ease of maintenance. Their architecture is referred as SAS or Subarray Antenna System.

nice SAS picture here

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The news also mention the entire ASEV will have 328 SAS means 82 SAS/antenna face. or 3034 TRM Channels/face (as each SAS has 37 TRM channels or HPM-High Power Module as Lockheed mentioned) Each SAS is 10 Kg. Very light compared to Raytheon's SPY-6 RMA which about 150-170 Kg (each RMA Box contain 144 Channels in Copper brick coldplates). I assume tho the Lockheed SAS does not include the coldplate enclosure which can increase the weight considerably. Japanese company Fujitsu has been appointed as manufacturer for the GaN HPA MMIC.

Back to height, most if not all renders on SPY-7 shows box shaped antenna, where the width seems to be less or equal compared to the height. the ASEV is then could have 4.3 x 4 or 4.3 x 4.3 m antenna. Since the TRM counts are known tho, the area of those antenna (17.2 to 18.5 sqm). Indicates frequency of 2214-2296 MHz (2.3 GHz). Lower frequency compared to US Aegis or Type 346 which operates in 3.3-3.7 GHz range.

The radar seems to be highly optimized for missile defense, thus it coud.. if one refers to ABM Treaty limit (average power of 3 Million Watt/sqm) against ballistic missile target. The predicted range would be "crazy" like in ballpark of 1000 km for 0.01 sqm RCS and ascending ballistic missiles could be picked in 5000-8000 Km. Such however also demand huge power output for the elements. Each channel to meet the ABM treaty limit have to output 989 Watt of average power.
 

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It sounds like Japan is the main designer of GCAP. I am wondering if anyone knows they will change it to a tailless design or remain like the display model?

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I am not seeing where in the article it implies Japan is the main designer, but the author is correct that GCAP will probably be more strike-focused compared to what the US envisioned for NGAD. In Japan, GCAP will be a replacement for the F-2, whose doctrinal role is primarily stand-off anti-ship strike.

The author is also incorrect in stating that it will be the mainstay of Japan's fighter force. There will be many more F-35s in Japanese service than the number of GCAPs they are likely to buy (currently Japan has only three combat squadrons of F-2s, and all non-MSIP F-15s are to be replaced by F-35s, therefore GCAPs might be expected to be purchased in a similar number as there are currently F-2s).

I'm not familiar with Britain's and Italy's requirements for Typhoon replacements. That will probably be a bigger influence on how the design changes than Japan's intentions alone.

If I was to bet, however, I would say it is unlikely they will adopt a tailless design. Japan has sort-of-more experience with the tail design currently shown due to its development of the X-2 demonstrator, yet none with tailless designs. Considering the tight schedule (Japan is expecting to start retiring F-2s in 2035) they will probably stick with the conservative configuration.
 

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After tinkering a bit more on AN/SPY-7 including digging its factsheet. Turn out that i am mistaken in my frequency estimates.

Tracing back to original LRDR in US. The antenna was 60 x 60 Feet (18.24 x 18.24) and consist of 10 large panels arranged in "5x2". Thus one panel has about 18.24/5 = 3.65 m and height of 18.24/2 = 9.12 m. Thus one panel of LRDR have area of 33.3 sqm. so 10 Panels makes it 333 sqm.

Each panel have about 288 "slots" for SAS (Subarray Antenna Suite), 10 panels thus making total of 2880. each SAS have 37 TRM Channels. Therefore total TRM counts for LRDR is about 2880 x 37 = 106560 TRM. Frequency estimates can thus be made from there. First is to divide the area with the TRM counts to get the element area, so :

333/106560 = 0.00312 sqm.

Then One needs to know the spacing arrangement for the radar's element, typically it's triangular which provides cost saving (compared to say "box" arrangement as it's will need about 14% more TRM, good for power aperture maybe but bad for your wallet and cooling) Thus the frequency can be estimated with this :

Ae = k * wavelength^2. Where Ae is element area which is known, k is "scanning constant" the deriviation of which one can read in "Radar handbook 3rd Edition". For Full FOV Array for which the array is scanning a full 120 degrees of arc the k equals to 0.332. Thus we have :

0.0312 = 0.332* wavelength^2

Wavelength = (0.00312/0.332)^(1/2)
Wavelength = 0.097 m or frequency of 3093 MHz (3 GHz) Same ballpark as SPY-6 (3.7 GHz) and Type 346 (3.3 GHz)

Now that we know the frequency and Element area, we can then estimate the "TRM Equivalent count" for the ASEV's AN/SPY-7 V1.

based on Japanese Senator Sato Masahisa's tweet the antenna is about 4.2 x 5 meter.

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Not that much different than in the previously provided Yahoo articles. Anyway since the aperture is a box or near it, the area can be estimated as 21 sqm. Since we now know the element area we can divide that 21 sqm with the known LRDR elements.

21/0.00312 = 6730 TRM.

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For detection range. I would assume LRDR to be designed with ABM Treaty limit of average power of 3 MW/sqm. This average power limit can be used to find the required TRM rating. Since the antenna area and TRM count is known which is 333 and 106560 respectively. First thing to do is to find how much/sqm average power required to be emitted by the array :

Pav/sqm = 3000000/333
Pav/sqm = 9009 Watt/sqm to meet the ABM treaty limit.

and then we need to find how many TRM available/ sqm of the area for which we can divide the TRM numbers with area

N/sqm= 106560/333
N/sqm= 320

Thus the average power needed for each TRM would be :

Pav/TRM = 9009/320
Pav = 28.15 Watt

Assuming long pulse of 10 us and say medium PRF of 20 KHz making it about 20% duty cycle, we can find the Peak power required by the TRM which is :

PPeak = 28.15/0.2
PPeak = 140.8 Watt.

Then i guess enough data is available for range estimates. others like capacity (track vs search resource allocation) could be assumed from literature. Which yield following for the LRDR.
SPY-7ABMTreaty.png

Which shows for the provided power aperture and some assumption on search area (120 x 2 degrees, barrier scan) The ABM treaty limit LRDR is capable of detecting a 10 sqm target like ascending ICBM from 14000 km with PD of 50% or 8800 km with PD of 90%.

Now that we established the value for US LRDR.. how would Japanese ASEV fare ? It's simpler to calculate as TRM counts are known.
AESA radar power aperture and range are related to cube of its TRM or "N^3" factor. We could use that relationship in following :

R=Rlrdr*(((Nasev/Nlrdr)^3)^(1/4))

Thus let's say we want 90% PD then we use the value for PD 90% range of 8800 km.

R=8800*(((6730/106560)^3)^(1/4))
R=1108.65 km

With value of 1835 km for PD 50%.

Thus we can see the ASEV would have range about 1108 to 1835 km against a 10 sqm ballistic target. If ASEV is also designed with ABM treaty limit in mind, the smaller aperture area of it will demand considerable 2.1 KW peak power and over 400 KW of average power/ element.

More complex calculation tho.. indicates much better range. As it's now taking account of beam broadening coming from smaller aperture. One typically want a narrow beam. Calculated beamwidth of the LRDR was 0.4 degrees, this might not be realistic as it's gonna take ages to scan the sector of interest, as a result typically large phased array's beamwidth are tapered with some algorithm to defocus the beam.

While ASEV's calculated beamwidth is more in line with SPY-1 which about 1.4 degrees. Lesser beam sectors needs to be scanned and thus more pulses are available for integration.

ASEV.png

The more complex calculation for the ASEV indicates a much better range figure of 2048 to 3147 km for 10 sqm target.
 
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