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SamuraiBlue said:
Don't really understand what you meant by call it.
Japan calls all combat ships as escorts and divide them into types for easier understanding.
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But escort ship is just a generic term for all ships. Don't they still have class such as "helicopter carrying destroyers"?

I meant, if this was a Carrier, and everyone agrees it is a carrier! Then why not just call it what it is... ie, a carrier.

In any other country, that will be known as a carrier, I know Japan don't call it that for reasons some have already stated here. And I agree with the general consenses that is the reason why it wasn't called a carrier.

But you have said, that a carrier can still be a "defensive" platform. So, my question was if that's the case, then why not just call a spade a spade! Just call it a carrier and argue that this carrier is for defensive purpose, instead of all this cloak and dagger stuff!
 
TerraN_EmpirE

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Different nations employ different designations. Many modern “Destroyers” would be classified by others as Guided missile cruisers well others classed as frigates. For the ships in question as Japan as yet lacked fixed wing platforms the main mission was to serve as a helicopter carrier which would have limited it’s mission scope to ASW, Heliborne assault, and the like. Once the JMSDF has finished leveling up those ships and puts F35 on the deck the mission capability shifts big time. Although it will only be a small number of F35B they will gain additional abilities.
 
Jura The idiot

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SamuraiBlue said:

How is this for diversity?
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I've now used google to look for a press release, right below the related article found something incomparably more interesting:
Japan gov't agrees to buy island for U.S. military drills for 16 bil. yen
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Japan Could Pick And Choose Components From Tempest

Japan says it wants international collaboration in developing its Future Fighter for the 2030s, but it wants to lead the project despite limited experience in fighter development. And it aims at a fighter much larger than any operated by a western European country ; the U.S. is not offering a possible joint project.

That seems to leave only the choice of indigenous development, perhaps with help from a foreign technical partner.

Nevertheless, participation in the UK’s Tempest program may also be feasible. The Tempest project—which includes the
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and MBDA—has a cooperation concept that leaves scope for Japan and other partners to use their own systems, weapons, propulsion and even airframes, says Air Commodore Daniel Storr, head of combat aircraft acquisition at the
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The model described by Storr gives Japan the flexibility to choose the size of its own fighter. Though evidently not an objective, this mix-and-match approach also creates an opportunity for Japan to continue to claim development leadership—but also to save money by sharing systems.

The policy goal of running its own fighter program, stated in 2018, has looked like a big obstacle to Japan’s participation in the Tempest or the Future Combat Air System (FCAS) project initiated by France and Germany. But if the Future Fighter shared only some features with Tempest, Japan could reasonably say it was leading its own program.

BAE Systems promoted the Tempest program at the DSEI Japan exhibition held in Tokyo fromNov. 18-20. Prospective FCAS prime contractors, such as
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, did not show their concept. Storr outlined the flexible model of cooperative development at an exhibition conference, but Japanese speakers at that event did not comment on the prospect of Japan joining Tempest.

In a Nov. 1 interview with The Financial Times, newly appointed Defense Minister Taro Kono seemed to play down the possibility of participation in a European program, saying Japan should explore all possibilities but needed to maintain interoperability with U.S. forces. Storr addressed that point, emphasizing that working with the U.S. was a high priority for the UK too.

Japan’s alternative to international cooperation is developing a fighter by itself with the technical help of a foreign company.
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is supporting the Korea Aerospace Industries KF-X and BAE is helping the Turkish Aerospace Industries TF-X in such an arrangement.

By working with Lockheed Martin,
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, Tokyo would partially compensate the U.S. for its expenditures in defending Japan. But the U.S. would gain little from technical support fees, and Japan is already committed to buying 147
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Lightnings as the aircraft to precede the Future Fighters.

The defense ministry has asked for the development of the Future Fighter to be launched in the fiscal year beginning April 2020. It is not clear whether that means mobilizing resources to commence full-scale development or taking some lesser step to firm up the commitment to create the aircraft. ....to read further
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. You will need to resister but it is free
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Now who said this collaboration was not possible?
 
TerraN_EmpirE

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Tam said:
WTF? Can this be taken seriously? Study about converting the Izumo into a CATOBAR.

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な　あ　に　こ　れ　？ 仮想戦記じゃねぇんだぞ(真顔) 限度ってもんがあるでしょう....ゼネラルダイナミクスさんや...(言うのは無料だし言ってみたい気持ちは分かるが)＞RT

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keeps making the rounds. But the end here is that it doesn’t make sense to refit Izumo like this. Better to start from scratch if they want cats. If they just want to use F35B then it’s easier to make smaller changes.
 
Jura The idiot

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regarding horsefeathers in this and previously in Aircraft Carriers III threads:
Nov 18, 2019
Jura said:
for billions they botched the USN carrier (which the Pentagon cleverly accepted and commissioned to be able to talk about game-changer) and now would botch a Japanese carrier (if there were such thing -- you know there isn't) if paid some more

of course salespersons don't have the word "shame" in their vocabulary, LOL
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ougoah

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Unsinkable like the SCS islands but destroyable as well. I wonder how any fortified islands defends itself from tsunamis. Maybe choice of location minimises the risks.
 
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