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Jeff Head said:
The US has been doing exercises with its allies for decades and this has not harmed or threatened anyone.

Can you imagine what China, North Korea, or Russia would say and do f the South Koreans or the Japanese announced they had developed a nuclear weapon and then announced they were testing a ballistic missile that could carry it...and then testing it by firing it right over the top of either North Korea, China or Russia?

You know it would mean instant military reaction.

That is precisely what North Korea is doing and if people would be honest with themselves and simply ask how these nations would respond to south Korea or Japan doing the same to them I think then we could make progress in getting China to use its influence to stop North Korea.

The thing that has upset the apple cart and is threatening the status quo is precisely what North Korea is doing.

Quite frankly Japan and the US have been very, very hold back so far.

You know good and well that if the other countries did what N. Korea is doing, that there would already have been military power used to stop it.

That's the simple truth and anyone who is honest with themselves know it.
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All right my Friend and if Communism as have pointed Equation again... coz it is, is surely not a good thing proof all the Eastern European 6 countries ! under Soviet dominance in 2 years 1989/91 have rejected it and it was the wish of a free people and besides that it went well

To each missile launching Rochet Man risk a ONU resolution which allow a strike waiting for it a while to stop blackmail
 
Equation

Equation

Lieutenant General
Jeff Head said:
The US has been doing exercises with its allies for decades and this has not harmed or threatened anyone.

Can you imagine what China, North Korea, or Russia would say and do f the South Koreans or the Japanese announced they had developed a nuclear weapon and then announced they were testing a ballistic missile that could carry it...and then testing it by firing it right over the top of either North Korea, China or Russia?

You know it would mean instant military reaction.

That is precisely what North Korea is doing and if people would be honest with themselves and simply ask how these nations would respond to south Korea or Japan doing the same to them I think then we could make progress in getting China to use its influence to stop North Korea.

The thing that has upset the apple cart and is threatening the status quo is precisely what North Korea is doing.

Quite frankly Japan and the US have been very, very hold back so far.

You know good and well that if the other countries did what N. Korea is doing, that there would already have been military power used to stop it.

That's the simple truth and anyone who is honest with themselves know it.
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Yes but the simple truth is that the US and Japan doesn't want the status quo to change. For some weird reason they think they are the key to "keeping peace in the region" negotiating or sharing the responsibility with other regional power like Russia or China is not needed. But the reality is that it is not. There are many academia's has proven this. Israel already has nukes and yet NO one from the West wouldn't not even raise their voice against it or force sanctions upon them. Why the double standard?
 
Equation

Equation

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FORBIN said:
All right my Friend and if Communism as have pointed Equation again... coz it is, is surely not a good thing proof all the Eastern European 6 countries ! under Soviet dominance in 2 years 1989/91 have rejected it and it was the wish of a free people and besides that it went well

To each missile launching Rochet Man risk a ONU resolution which allow a strike waiting for it a while to stop blackmail
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Those Eastern European nations brand of Communism sucks, just like North Korea and they have only themselves to blame. To even place China in that same inept government Communist brand category is simply naive and absurd. China's brand of Communism is a lot more successful and the Chinese are fine with that. Heck even those former Eastern Soviet bloc countries would love to do more business with China and diplomacy as well. I don't why you have this narrative mentality that ONLY Western style democracy is the way for the world. Lately it has proven not so, all thanks to China. Bottom line, it's all about the quality of the leadership and service to the people regardless of what type of governmental system.
 
SamuraiBlue

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Equation said:
Those Eastern European nations brand of Communism sucks, just like North Korea and they have only themselves to blame. To even place China in that same inept government Communist brand category is simply naive and absurd. China's brand of Communism is a lot more successful and the Chinese are fine with that. Heck even those former Eastern Soviet bloc countries would love to do more business with China and diplomacy as well. I don't why you have this narrative mentality that ONLY Western style democracy is the way for the world. Lately it has proven not so, all thanks to China. Bottom line, it's all about the quality of the leadership and service to the people regardless of what type of governmental system.
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Could you two take this whole discussion to another thread, basically it has nothing to do with Japan.
 
Equation

Equation

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SamuraiBlue said:
I did, asking you TWO.
As they say you can't tango by yourself
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But you were ONLY using my quote as it seems to be refering to me only? You could do this without seeming bias by just clicking "Post Reply" instead of just "Reply" from my previous post.o_O

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Those Eastern European nations brand of Communism sucks, just like North Korea and they have only themselves to blame. To even place China in that same inept government Communist brand category is simply naive and absurd. China's brand of Communism is a lot more successful and the Chinese are fine with that. Heck even those former Eastern Soviet bloc countries would love to do more business with China and diplomacy as well. I don't why you have this narrative mentality that ONLY Western style democracy is the way for the world. Lately it has proven not so, all thanks to China. Bottom line, it's all about the quality of the leadership and service to the people regardless of what type of governmental system.Could you two take this whole discussion to another thread, basically it has nothing to do with Japan.
 
FORBIN

FORBIN

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Equation said:
Those Eastern European nations brand of Communism sucks, just like North Korea and they have only themselves to blame. To even place China in that same inept government Communist brand category is simply naive and absurd. China's brand of Communism is a lot more successful and the Chinese are fine with that. Heck even those former Eastern Soviet bloc countries would love to do more business with China and diplomacy as well. I don't why you have this narrative mentality that ONLY Western style democracy is the way for the world. Lately it has proven not so, all thanks to China. Bottom line, it's all about the quality of the leadership and service to the people regardless of what type of governmental system.
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And LOL justely i have never say it and there confirm i have say...you do and u post almost only with politic in mind ... moderated for it several times.
Chinese Communism is different for economy but not elections etc... as USSR.

Equation said:
Could you ask the others to do the same and not just me?
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You start as usualy...


SamuraiBlue said:
Could you two take this whole discussion to another thread, basically it has nothing to do with Japan.
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I have yet say it but with him and some excited we speak Chinese French Expression for one personn unable to understand normaly them they must be able :D :rolleyes:
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Jeff Head

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Equation said:
Yes but the simple truth is that the US and Japan doesn't want the status quo to change. For some weird reason they think they are the key to "keeping peace in the region" negotiating or sharing the responsibility with other regional power like Russia or China is not needed. But the reality is that it is not. There are many academia's has proven this. Israel already has nukes and yet NO one from the West wouldn't not even raise their voice against it or force sanctions upon them. Why the double standard?
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Untrue, Equation.

The US has been begging the Chinese to get involved...and today...they did.

That's a good thing. The Chinese need to help stop what the Norht Koreans are doing.

it is most certainly not the US and Japan that have destroyed the status quo in the region. It is North Korea. The US is doing all it can to put that back...without Japan and south Korea moving towards nukes.

All the people who say thatNorth Korea has to have them to protect itself then say it would not be right for Japan and South Korea to have them.

But North Lorea getting them tends to move those other countries towards that.

The US does not want all of those countries nuclear armed.

China did today what was in its best interest and I appluad it. They are putting the squuze to North Koprea and I hope it helps turn North Korea around and away from the mad, crazy things they are doing.
 
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