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Jura The idiot · Aug 27, 2015

SamuraiBlue said:
JS Kaga huh.
That name was completely unexpected.

was it?

SamuraiBlue said:
I believe it was the name of one of the WW2 aircraft carriers.
...

originally the Kaga was to be built as a battleship with ten 16" guns, but was converted; her sister ship, the Tosa, was not, and instead used as a target in awesome exercises examining underwater trajectories of heavy shells ... wrong thread, I know

EDIT
moments later I realized the Kaga would have been scrapped if the Amagi, being converted together with the Akagi, had not been damaged in an earthquake

FORBIN · Aug 27, 2015

Janiz · Aug 27, 2015

Jura said:
EDIT
moments later I realized the Kaga would have been scrapped if the Amagi, being converted together with the Akagi, had not been damaged in an earthquake

Again you showed some good historic awarness in here Jura. Amagi class was the choice of the Japanese Navy at the time and the reason was that Amagi class was chosen for conversion was their speed. Simply put - Tosa class battleships were slower.

And indeed they were. Akagi could do 32,5 knots from the start while Kaga made 'only' 26,5kns.

Jura The idiot · Aug 28, 2015

Janiz said:
Again you showed some good historic awarness in here Jura. ...

LOL in fact I had to consult wiki for the part you quoted: I remembered two battlecruisers couldn't be converted because of "something" but couldn't recall what that "something" was ... in addition to more power available you mentioned, the battlecruisers were longer, and it was easier to remove the excessive armor (?) ... but I'm just bluffing and I actually don't know how they went about those conversions (I mean also the USN Lexingtons plus the French Bearn); I'd be interested to read about it (not in
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Jeff Head · Aug 28, 2015

More, high res pictures from the JS Kaga, DDH-184, launch. the second Izumo class carrier. The JS Izumo, DDH-183, and the JS Kaga, DDH-184, were launched almost exactly two years apart. That's great work by the Japanese shipbuilders.

Jeff Head · Aug 28, 2015

Some more pics of the Japanese Izumo carriers:

Look mom, a Japanese destroyer! LOL!

Look mom, two Japanese destroyers! LOL!

They are beautiful ships though.

Jeff Head · Aug 28, 2015

Here...let's punctuate what the JMSDF has done. Outside of the US Navy, I do not believe anyone else can line them up like this:

JS Hyuga DDH-181

JS Ise DDH-182

JS Izumo DDH-183

JS Kaga DDH-184

The Japanese have now launhed four of these carriers since August 2007. That's four in eight years. Pretty good rate:

JS Hyuga, DDH-181, 8/22/2007
JS ISe, DDH-182, 8/21/2009
JS Izumo, DDH-183, 8/6/2013
JS Kaga, DDH-184, 8/27/2015

bd popeye · Aug 28, 2015

Magnificent ships.. I'm sure those Izumo class DDH could handle 18-20 F-35B plus six helos...I have to wonder willl the deck take the heat of an F-35B exhaust????

One thing I don't like is that elevator in the fore section of the flight deck in front of the island..

Jeff Head · Aug 28, 2015

test bd said:
Magnificent ships.. I'm sure those Izumo class DDH could handle 18-20 F-35B plus six helos...I have to wonder willl the deck take the heat of an F-35B exhaust????

One thing I don't like is that elevator in the fore section of the flight deck in front of the island..

I believe studies indicate that the Izumo class could in fact handle F-35Bs, but they would have to refit with additional heat treatment for it.

Supposedly, a follow on class is already in the works that are designed from the outset to be for STOVL, fixed-wing aircraft Four ships I believe.

But the funding has not come through for them yet.

If the Japanese in fact build four of those, then they would end up with eight total carriers.

kwaigonegin · Aug 28, 2015

SamuraiBlue said:
JS Kaga huh.
That name was completely unexpected.
I believe it was the name of one of the WW2 aircraft carriers.
The IJS Kaga looked like this.

Sunk during the battle of Midway.

I agree... Kaga is not a very good name no offense lol. 'She' played a signifcant role in the attacks on Pearl Harbor and the battle of midway.

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