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bd popeye

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Re: JMSDF 16DDH Carrier Takes shape

Why the hey would I have any delusions of an ever more powerful Japanese military backing up the US?

I never posted that you did. I was speaking in generalietes. Just as adeptitus did. I named no names...

Some people dream. Nothing wrong with that. My personal feeling is that it is important for the US that the JMSDF be strong so it may counter-act any aggression against Japan or in the Pacific region. And assist the USN in any way possible in the Pacific region.
 

Finn McCool

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The JSDF must be prepared, because their old nemesis Godzilla could appear at any time!:rofl:

But in all seriousness, the JSDF has some excellent equipment. Although they seem to fall into the trap of paying to much for too little.
 

Finn McCool

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Re: JMSDF 16DDH Carrier Takes shape

RE: The Osumis hangar size and helicopter carrying ability, I could find nothing to indicate that it could carry anymore than one helicopter efficently. Simply put these ships are not intended for operating aircraft very much. They are for logisitics and amphibious operations.
 

bd popeye

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Re: Chinese Military News Thread

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Too bad some PLA troops were not flown in for the cermony...Chinese Defence Minister Cao Gang Chuan (R) and his Japanese counterpart Masahiko Komura (rear C) review the honour guard at the Ministry of Defence, in Tokyo, Japan, 30 August 2007. The Chinese Defence Minister is on a two-day visit in Japan.
 
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Japan’s defense ministry plans to request billions of dollars to upgrade its F-15 fighter jets and develop its own stealth fighter since Washington is reluctant to sell its advanced Raptor fighters to its Asian ally.

The ministry is asking for a 4.82 trillion yen ($41.6 billion) budget for the fiscal year beginning next April, an increase of 0.7 percent from this year, officials said. The budget request, announced Aug. 31, must be approved by the government as part of its draft budget in December and then enacted by parliament by the end of March.

It includes a request for 112 billion yen to upgrade 32 F-15 fighter jets. Japan has about 200 F-15s and only eight of them have been upgraded so far.
The ministry wants to upgrade the F-15s to be competitive with neighboring countries, such as China and North Korea, at least until Japan finds successors to its aging fighter fleet, officials said.

Chinese Defence Minister Cao Gangchuan, on a rare visit to Japan this week, has sought to ease Tokyo’s concerns about Beijing’s huge military buildup, but mutual mistrust runs deep. China — seeking to modernize its huge but often poorly equipped military force of over 2 million personnel so it can extend its strategic reach — has said it would increase defense spending by 17.8 percent to about $45 billion in 2007.

Worries about North Korea also persist after Pyongyang tested its first nuclear weapon last year, despite progress toward implementing a disarmament deal struck in February. A Japanese air force official said that although the F-15s are major players, they are “lagging behind the global trend."

Japan’s defense ministry wants to buy Lockheed Martin’s radar-evading F-22s (Raptors), as well as Boeing F-15FX fighters to replace its aging F-4EJ fighter fleet. But current U.S. law bans exports of the Raptor, Washington’s most advanced stealth fighter, for security reasons. Japanese defense officials still figure the Raptor, which is equipped for ground attack, electronic attack and eavesdropping, was the best replacement to deal with regional threats.

But they have not ruled out selecting European-made rivals to the F-22, which carry a $136 million price tag. Possible alternatives include the Eurofighter Typhoon, built by a consortium headed by BAE Systems, Europe’s largest defense firm, and France’s Rafael fighter.

"Whether we continue to upgrade remaining F-15s beyond the next fiscal year depends on the situation involving the selection of next-generation fighter jets," a ministry official said. In the face of U.S. resistance to exports of the cutting edge fighter, the ministry will seek 15.7 billion yen for research and development on home-made radar-evading fighter jets. "We may be able to have a bargaining chip in our negotiations with the U.S. by demonstrating the possibility of Japan developing fighter jets on its own," another official said.

The ministry is also seeking 158 billion yen for missile defense, including the purchase of ground-based PAC-3 interceptors worth 9.7 billion yen. The budget request also included proposed purchases of one 5,000-ton destroyer, one 2,900-ton diesel submarine, one 570-ton mine sweeper and four patrol helicopters. The army wants funds to buy nine tanks, one fighter helicopters and two transport helicopters.

FYI, the 5,000 tonne destroyer is a new class of escorts designed to guard the AEGIS destroyers whilst on operation - probably carrying ESSM and the SSM-1B. The 2,900 tonne submarine is a new SSK class, supposedly an evolved form of the Oyashio-class. The lead ship is due to be launched in October, as far as I know.

In regards to the F-15 upgrades, apparently it involves the Raytheon APG-63(v)1 radar, but that's all I know at the moment.
 
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Muffhead

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I'm not a Navy nerd. How does the japanese training compare to other nations in the region? How about their airfoce? Do they train at red flag? Do the japanese compete in wargames with the USN? Sorry if its off topic. If it is, tell me what thread to put it in.

Also, this confuses me:

"The ministry wants to upgrade the F-15s to be competitive with neighboring countries, such as China and North Korea"

What kind of air foce does North Korea have? I though they had "Flying Coffins"?


Thanks, folks.
 

sidewinder

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i think the best thing for the japanese airforce would be to buy the eurofighter typhoon since the time taken to develop a new fighter will be too long and since japans primary target in asia is china which has it best fighters as su-30mkk the typhoon should be more than a equal match.
 

yongke

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i think the best thing for the japanese airforce would be to buy the eurofighter typhoon since the time taken to develop a new fighter will be too long and since japans primary target in asia is china which has it best fighters as su-30mkk the typhoon should be more than a equal match.

What about the new age J-10 and possibly J-XX? I think the japanese airforce is aiming at the next generation Chinese hardware, not current.
 

Schumacher

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i think the best thing for the japanese airforce would be to buy the eurofighter typhoon since the time taken to develop a new fighter will be too long and since japans primary target in asia is china which has it best fighters as su-30mkk the typhoon should be more than a equal match.

As has been discussed before, I think the chances of Japan having the political will to make major non-US purchases are slim. The 'threat' to buy Typhoon was just to get US to release F-22 & it now seems US has called Japan's bluff.
The talk now of development of a domestic stealth project & upgrades to F-15 further show F-22 & Typhoon are long way off. Most likely US will 'share' some downgraded stealth tech with Japan for its domestic project, get some good business out of it & make Japan as dependent on it as ever.
 

crobato

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I'm not a Navy nerd. How does the japanese training compare to other nations in the region? How about their airfoce? Do they train at red flag? Do the japanese compete in wargames with the USN? Sorry if its off topic. If it is, tell me what thread to put it in.

Yes, they do train in Red Flag and exercise with the USN.
 
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