Japan intercepts PLAAF Y-8 near Japan

Re: Japan Flies Alert Aircraft Against PLAAF Y-8 Over-flight

This is another one of those countless pieces of BS destined to brainwashed the general mass in the West. The Chinese plane was never a threat to anyone as it didn't carry any bomb and flew in international airspace.

Pure sinophobia.

Re: Japan Flies Alert Aircraft Against PLAAF Y-8 Over-flight

plawolf said:

Ps, I think the title of this thread is a little misleading since the PLA plane clearly didn't overfly anything Japanese.

To state overflight would be suggesting that the Chinese did something aggressive to trigger it when in fact all the Chinese plane did was fly in international airspace, and as such did absolutely nothing wrong.

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I never intended to mislead anyone. My apologizes if I did. I'll change the title.

Question..

What if the Y-8 had been forced to land and detained in Japan like the USN E/P-3 was detained in China in 2001 ? How would you fellows feel about that? Just curious how you gents feel a situation like that would develop/play out.

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The Chinese aircraft should receive J-11BH escorts for future missions.

I think the pilots would ditch the plane and not even attempt to land on Japanese territory if a similar situation to Hainan were to happen. I'm sure the Chinese probably though out contingencies. Just imagine the hissy-fit the Japanese will have seeing a rescue and salvage operation there.

bd popeye said:

What if the Y-8 had been forced to land and detained in Japan like the USN E/P-3 was detained in China in 2001 ? How would you fellows feel about that? Just curious how you gents feel a situation like that would develop/play out.

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I'd expect the Japanese to extract things they want, just like the Chinese did to us. How much Banzai Abe gets is debatable, but I'm sure he will demand as much as possible, and the Chinese will yield as little as possible. Since it would be the tail wagging the dog, America will be neck deep in alligators protecting our vassal state.

bd popeye said:

What if the Y-8 had been forced to land and detained in Japan like the USN E/P-3 was detained in China in 2001 ? How would you fellows feel about that? Just curious how you gents feel a situation like that would develop/play out.

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I think everyone has a little bias, and many of us would probably react negatively (even though we would've believed the EP-3 incident was "justified").
Then again, there is a certain precedent regarding the EP-3 incident as a J-8 crashed in contact with the plane (whose fault, still debatable)., and if a F-15J also happened to crash during interception, then a forced landing or detainment would be somewhat fairer.

I also think Japan atm doesn't have the stomach to detain such an aircraft quite yet, not unless they want westpac to become a much more dangerous place. Long range fighter escorts and presence of AEWC may play out if Japan pulls a hainan incident.

SinoSoldier said:

The Chinese aircraft should receive J-11BH escorts for future missions.

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Lol no better way to ratchet up the tension and fuel the fires of Japan's hard liners.

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Bltizo said:

Lol no better way to ratchet up the tension and fuel the fires of Japan's hard liners.

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If the JASDF are able to force the Y-8 to land then the Chinese will be faced with a serious security breach and will lose face. The fighter escorts are to prevent such encounters with the F-15J; they know that whatever happens would be blamed on them and probably won't risk a dogfight.

bd popeye said:

What if the Y-8 had been forced to land and detained in Japan like the USN E/P-3 was detained in China in 2001 ? How would you fellows feel about that? Just curious how you gents feel a situation like that would develop/play out.

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Ditch the plane in international water, or fly to Taiwan...

Realistically, however, if the plane was able to land anywhere. it would be able to fly back to China. If you look at the map, it's not far away from China at all. At it's very possible that a Chinese airfield is actually closer than a Japanese airfield when any incident occurs. This is something not available to the US in South China Sea. (Now may be US can land in Vietnam, perhaps)

If China start to fly Y-8 near Guam or Hawaii, then this would be a issue. However, China don't need to. Being forward deployed right on China's doorsteps mean China can do intelligence gathering right on her doorsteps.

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SinoSoldier said:

The Chinese aircraft should receive J-11BH escorts for future missions.

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I think it's perfect as is. A Y-8 is more benign in terms of armament so it gathers info right at Japan's doorsteps but doesn't give any alibi for the Japanese. They love conducting surveillence on others, just look at the numerous shots of CN ships by them. So giving them a taste on the receiving end. If they want to scramble, scramble away. The Y-8 can take pics of the interceptors too.

bd popeye said:

I never intended to mislead anyone. My apologizes if I did. I'll change the title.

Question..

What if the Y-8 had been forced to land and detained in Japan like the USN E/P-3 was detained in China in 2001 ? How would you fellows feel about that? Just curious how you gents feel a situation like that would develop/play out.

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This question leaves out an important piece. In your scenario, how is the Y-8 forced to land? Intentionally with shots fired or accidentally such as mid-air collision? The former is obviously a strong negative reaction. The latter is a mixed reaction. Understandable that the Japanese would want to glean as much info as possible over it and win as much PR points. I think the Chinese side would rather ditch the plane in the waters first then try to land it on the nearest airfield given the confrontational mood of late.

Right now, I feel it's a bit of Schadenfruede. The Japanese love to dispatch surveillance planes on Chinese ships, it's some reciprocation now.