J-XX Fighter Aircraft

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MIGleader

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the reason that it's 36 su-27's is that 40 of them are the UBK trainers. however, it is possible to use the ubks in an attack. if china wants to have multirole fighters, it should upgrade it's ubks and add another seat to the sk's using the ubk design.
 

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we do need some su-32FN, I wonder how good the JH-7As really are. Apparently, China is repeatedly changing the specs for new JH-7As, I guess to make it match up better with su-30mk and su-34
 

MIGleader

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yeah right!!! the j-7a is still underpowered and cant carry as many wepons. it definitly does not have the same ground support ability as the su-32.
 

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MIGleader said:
yeah right!!! the j-7a is still underpowered and cant carry as many wepons. it definitly does not have the same ground support ability as the su-32.
we all know it's less capable, but it's come a long way. If China can get the production right and ToT for su-30mkk2, it might be able to improve JH-7A a little more.

btw, there are also more J-11B in China's arsenal right now. So, there are more J-11s then the number you guys listed.
 

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The J-10 is a good domestic aviation program to produce multi-role capable light combat aircraft similiar to the F-16, MiG-29, or Mirage-2000. It's a good replacement for the J-6 & J-7 fleet.

The JH-7 is serving with PLAAF's naval aviation and probably serves similiar capability as Dassault Super Etendard or Mirage F-1 configured for naval strike missions, with 2-4 air-launched anti-ship missiles.

The Su-30 is prolly a better strike aircraft, but the problem here is that the Russians might not want to assist the PRC in integrating domestically made missiles (C-802/C-803) with Sukhoi aircraft. Instead, they'd prefer to sell China their own missiles.

So if you want a platform for launching C-802/C-803 missiles, you might be stuck with your own aircraft. It's not the best but not bad either. Imagine a future scenario where you send a pair of JH-7A's, each armed with 4x LACM's, against a surface target. The JH-7A's can launch their munitions from as far as 400 km away and escape, and you only need 12.5% hit rate (from 8 missiles) to mission-kill most targets.
 

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adeptitus said:
The JH-7A's can launch their munitions from as far as 400 km away and escape,

I don't wanna sound evil and not trusting but please do try to provide your best source for that claim for us to see/read, i'm really curious. Are you talking about some version of c-803 having such a range, even when air launched?
 

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Totoro said:
I don't wanna sound evil and not trusting but please do try to provide your best source for that claim for us to see/read, i'm really curious. Are you talking about some version of c-803 having such a range, even when air launched?
maybe YJ-85? I doubt 400 KM, but 350KM might be possible in a hi-lo profile.
 

MIGleader

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i would not put the yj-85 at anything over 300. i believe the missle can due 200 km, at most 200-250.
 

MadMax

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why would china want the SU 32 if they dont have an aircraft carrier the SU 34 is the ground version of the 32 without carrier gear so the 34 might be cheaper also
 
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