J-XX Fighter Aircraft

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MIGleader

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Deino said:
Here this link explains everything !!!

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Cheers, Deino :D
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Those are really nice pictures, but I doubt their credibilty. It looks like the mig-1.44 and the yf-23 decided to have a kid.

probably made by some china poster whos good with CGI
 
Deino

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MIGleader said:
Those are really nice pictures, but I doubt their credibilty. It looks like the mig-1.44 and the yf-23 decided to have a kid.

probably made by some china poster whos good with CGI
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Yes :D ... and that's exactly what that links tells You ... these are not craphics from Chengdu or Shenyang ... there is someone sitting behind his PC with a very great ability to work with CG, who has a special knowledge in aviation scenes and- for my opinion – a very good feeling for how such a plane “could” look like (even if this one is too large !)

I wish he (or she) would try something similar for a future Chinese bomber or fighter bomber too !

Cheers, Deino ;)
 
Roger604

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The model in the "hangar / gymnasium" could be done by a different person than the one who made the greyscale 3D model. The greyscale model doesn't have the "Shan" logo on it.

I'm not saying the greyscale model is done by Chengdu, but it's possible.
 
Wingman

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You know, with all those amazing graphics artists in China, I'm surprised, and at the same time disappointed, that no Chinese flight sims have ever been made. They would surely have done a really good job.
 
coolieno99

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The J-XX aircraft would not be complete without an AESA radar. The AESA radar is a giant technical leap forward compare to today's radars. Apparently China seems to mastered AESA technology.

during the MAK-2001 airshow held in moscow, Phozotron identified two Chinese firms engage in R&D of AESA(Suzhou and nanjing) nanjing already developed x band T/R MMIC with output power 6w. labaratory model comprise 144 T/R module,two experimental model comprise of 500t/r and 1000 t/r,that was 3 years ago.in 2004 China sign aggreement with russia to co develop AESA.(there are 4 firm In russia capable of R&D and manufacturing t/r MMIC).
lately,during the Indian airshow, phozotron display a mock up Zhuk-MS AESA capable of detecting fighter size target at 200km,(vs 70km for mechanical radar)there is possbile that PLAAF AESDA may resemble Zhuk-ms

Source: china-defense.com forum
 
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FreeAsia2000

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I've just found this link.

Is this the J-XX ?

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If i'm the first to post this do i get rep ? :)

Mods edit: No you are not the first but propapply the eleventh person to post this EXTREMELY clear CGI!!!!
no prizes nor reputation points...
 
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petty officer1

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Maybe???
 
coolieno99

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coolieno99 said:
... etc ...
"during the MAK-2001 airshow held in moscow, Phozotron identified two Chinese firms engage in R&D of AESA(Suzhou and nanjing) nanjing already developed x band T/R MMIC with output power 6w. labaratory model comprise 144 T/R module,two experimental model comprise of 500t/r and 1000 t/r,that was 3 years ago.in 2004 China sign aggreement with russia to co develop AESA.(there are 4 firm In russia capable of R&D and manufacturing t/r MMIC).
lately,during the Indian airshow, phozotron display a mock up Zhuk-MS AESA capable of detecting fighter size target at 200km,(vs 70km for mechanical radar)there is possbile that PLAAF AESDA may resemble Zhuk-ms"

Source: china-defense.com forum
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Japan is one of the first country to use AESA radar on fighter jet(Mitsubishi F-2). Apparently the Chinese T/R modules produce about twice the power of the Japanese ones.:coffee:
Excerpt is extracted from an article on the Mitsubishi F-2:

"a new Mitsubishi Electric (Melco)-designed active phased-array radar comprising 800 3W gallium-arsenide transmit/receive modules"

source: af.xuexue.net

uses of composites like graphite-expoxy reduces weight and radar reflections on 5th generation fighters. Apparently the Japanese transfer a new type of graphite composite mfg technology to the U.S. during the development of the Mitsubishi F-2. Usually it is the other way around - U.S. transfers technology to Japan. :coffee:

Lockheed Martin has received extensive data on Japanese manufacturing processes during the aircraft development phase, as the result of two-way technology transfer agreements. The company will manufacture the F-2 wing boxes from composite materials using unique cocuring methods transferred to the United States by Japanese industry. Transfer of this technology started in 1990 with material testing.

source: af.xuexue.net

Japan was the first country to use the AESA radar, but it was installed on a ship. This is not a big surprise since Japan is one of the world leader in gallium arsenide technology.:coffee:

half correct,it was the Japanese navy,the first country in the world to use AESA,in 1989,JSDF introduce AESA naval radar ,but it uses T/R hybrid circuit,rather than modern monolith circuit.
there's a possibility that 170DDG uses hybrid circuit rather than monolith circuit .

source: china-defense.com forum

my personal opinion: it is known that Lockheed(maker of F-22 Raptor) work closely with Japan to developed the Mitsubishi F-2 fighter in the early 90's. The Japanese developed a new method of manufacturing graphite composite, and that technology was transferred to Lockheed, so Lockheed can built graphite composite parts of the F-2 fighter. The F-2 had Radar Absorbing Materials(RAM) applied to the wing leading edges, nose cone, and engine inlets. So it seems probable Lockheed "borrowed" many of the F-2's technology to build the F-22. And this probably explains why Lockheed has no reservation in "exporting" the F-22 to Japan.:coffee:
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Hi Guys,

First off I am sorry if what I am asking about is redundant. I am curious about a news item I found in a Croatian military magazine Croatian Soldier (or "Hrvatski Vojnik").
It talks about J-14 and shows a picture of a mock-up model in hangar, virtually identical of the CGI images posted here.
Many years of speculation on Chinese 5th gen fighter plane program, tantamount to the American Raptor F-22, have been finally confirmed.
An available photo shows a large twin-engined craft whose body is shaped for maximum deflection of radar beams. Though it appears to be a prototype, it is actually a full-size mock-up, which doesn't mean an actual prototype isn't already flying somewhere away from the public eye. Western sources have so far claimed that China is working on 2 parallel 5th-gen fighter projects, one marked J-13 (by SAC) and shares some similarities with Raptor, and the other is J-12 (by CAC). The J-14 from the photo is more similar to Mig 1-44 whereas chinese plane has more accentuated stealth features. Surprising too is the designation "J-14" which suggests projects J-12 and J-13 might have been discarded meanwhile.
Judging from the photo the planes estimated length is about 20 meters and wingspan greater than 15 meters. Maximum take-off weight is 30 tonns or more. Large bulges in the rear section of the plane suggest installation of big, powerful turboshaft engines with maximal thrust of about 180 kN.
Such powerplant should be sufficient for maximum speed greater than Mach 2.30 and supercruise without use of afterburners of around 1700 km/h.
As the Chinese aeronautical industry is still insufficiently advanced to develop such a sopfisticated project, Russian assistance is obvious.
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That's a rough translation, and here is the
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in Croatian as well as the picture.
I was surprised because this monthly is usually very well done and professionally researched. Did they also buy into the CGI hoax?
Thanks.
 
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