J-35 carrier fighter (PLAN) thread

SinoSoldier

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Very interesting if true, it would be the first time in history that the Chinese have performed contract bidding post-prototype stage.
 

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I read some of these rumors, they say the naval J-20 is already well in advance of naval FC-31 program. So to delay the decision SAC asks the decision makers to wait till both project produce prototypes then run a physical comparison test. Something like the JSF X-planes in US.

While it is good to see some competitions, it also means the military fans are more and more dependent on rumors to entertain themselves. This one is a 180 degree turn just from a few weeks ago.
 
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SinoSoldier

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Should we open another betting competition like we did with the Type 002 carrier a few years ago?

I'm putting my money down on the FC-31 derivative willing the competition.
 

SinoSoldier

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I read some of these rumors, they say the naval J-20 is already well in advance of naval FC-31 program. So to delay the decision SAC asks the decision makers to wait till both project produce prototypes then run a physical comparison test. Something like the JSF X-planes in US.

While it is good to see some competitions, it also means the military fans are more and more dependent on rumors to entertain themselves. This one is a 180 degree turn just from a few weeks ago.

I find it hard to believe that the institute would be able to churn out a navalized prototype in what seems like an impossible time frame. The company has zero experience in developing carrier-based aircraft and modifying the J-20 for carrier operations would take 3 years at the very, very least (it took 2.5-3 years for the F-35C to go from design approval to prototype rollout stage). As that implies that a decision to build a carrier-based J-20 was made in 2014-2015 at the very latest, such a development surely would've generated rumors and buzz, and yet there were none.

There are a few commentators who are interpreting the rumor to be of a navalized Z-20 making a test flight, which honestly is much more likely to be the case. Interestingly Huitong recently added the possible designation "J-25" to his FC-31 entry.
 

SinoSoldier

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Anyways, here is the original riddle that sparked the rumors of a carrier-based J-20 making a maiden flight. I do not know how they arrived at such a conclusion from a rather-abstract piece of writing. Take it with a bucketful of salt.

北海哥哥,我怀孕了

额额,这~~~可你还没有毕业

没关系,生儿育女是女人的任务,其他都是臆造的
是资产阶级民主制度所虚构的
我会和学校解释清楚这件事情的,放心好了,北海哥哥,不会影响到你的,也应该不会影响我在军校毕业,这种事情现在虽然不常见,但也并非没有

好吧,那我动用执行舰长权利,给你换一个舱室吧,你觉得31号舱怎么样,那里靠近舰首,有巨大的舷窗,很漂亮温馨,又是单人 舱室

我不,我要和你在一起,再说为什么不用20号舱室呢,改一改就行了呀

因为这是我的决定(那里靠近逃生舱)更何况,你既然怀孕了我们又不能做什么了,乖

谁说的,没有什么比生理本能的需求更纯洁的,我们要充分享受爱的力量


呵呵,只是为了让你安心养胎

没关系啦,新时代的医学制度已经证明那样更有利于胎儿的发展

好吧,听你的,等一下,三体星人的探测器还有多久到达

嗯,我听学姐们说,大概还有22天就能到达海王星轨道附近,那个时候我们就要出发去拦截了

好吧,我知道了,你觉得蓝色空间的舰长褚岩怎么样

为什么问他呢?

我是想说,如果在拦截的过程中,有什么意外,你一定要去找他

难道你不打算带我一起去么?

本来是打算的,但现在你有了我们的孩子,就应该,乖,听我的安排,女人抛弃现在的男人是为了寻求强者
爱是神圣和牢固的,难道在床上和自己的男人,管他是第几个呢,要彻底摆脱羞耻感,这也是臆造的,更何况这是我的命令

……虽然难以接受,但既然你这么说,我照办就是了

呵呵,你们危机纪元的孩子,也这么矜持了么

不是,只是有点难过,但蓝色空间号并没有我们的自然选择号强大呀,我们有96万吨,巡航速度可以达到10%光速,极速可以达到18%,部署位置又在木星轨道,燃料补给是最优先的

这和燃料补给有什么关系

我虽然不说,但别以为我不知道你想做什么

…………你说什么

没什么,我都听你的安排

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Insignius

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It's full of references to the hard-sci-fi novel trilogy Three Body Problem.
You will understand all references, if you are a fan of it. Which is what most amateur PLA Watchers in China are.
 

Lethe

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You can't have a competition between aircraft in totally different weight classes. The requirements determine the winner before they contenders even get off the drawing board.

You can have a Plan A and a Plan B though...
 

longmarch

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It actually talks about a carrier version two-seat J-20. Seems to hint that work has already started on a landed based two-seat J-20 and adding a carrier version is considered good for the development.

So a choice between a two-seat J-20 and single-seat J-31, does it make sense? Or could it be both?
 

Inst

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I'd rather prefer that the Chinese use both J-21s and J-20s on their carrriers. You want a high-end air superiority fighter on your carrier as well as a strike fighter, which is what the J-21 is going to be. The news about the sensor suite upgrade is very promising; there is no reason the J-21 should omit EODAS except for cost.
 

Klon

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Whichever aircraft is ultimately selected, hopefully China's carrier-borne fighter mix over the next 15 years will be weighed heavily towards the fifth generation. As the carrier program is just getting started, there are no previous-generation fighters to replace. Is there anything the J-15 does better than the "J-XY"?
 
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