J-35 carrier fighter (PLAN) thread

Alfa_Particle

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Actually this image is so blurry that IMO they look even more like two F-22s than a J-35 or J-35 & FC-31 (J-31).
But don't tell this too loud, otherwise some Pakistani fan-boys immediately claim these two are for Pakistan.
Fair enough, but I thought the tails were vaguely backwards-swept compared to the orthodox trapezium tails of the F-22.

Highly doubt it'll happen anyways. The most they'll get is probably the FC-31.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Speaking of which, an update:
In the meantime, something noteworthy:


Rough translation:

Though, if this is indeed true - With the J-35 model already present on Liaoning right now, I'm more inclined to believe that proper modifications have been done to the wheel chocks on Liaoning during her MLU at drydock that would permit J-35s to be launched from the carrier.

Otherwise, I can't figure how the PLAN would be happy to conduct only landing trials with the J-35...
That's indeed true.

However, Kuznetsov's wheelchocks are able to handle both the Su-33 and MiG-29K by being physically wider:

The wheelchocks on Kuznetsov have been designed such that the outer halves of the wheelchocks are used for the Su-33, while the inner halves of the wheelchocks are used for the MiG-29K.

Meanwhile, the wheelchocks on Liaoning and Shandong are visibly narrower than those on the Kuznetsov:

@sugar_wsnbn's reasoning being that the J-15 and the J-35 have a 3-metre difference in width, such that "so naturally, the position of the landing gear (i.e. the spacing in between the rear landing gears of both fighters) is also different".

However, I won't rule out the possibility that the J-35 designers at Shenyang might have designed the rear undercarriages of the J-35 to have similar spacings in between those wheels as those on the J-15 - Either that, or wider wheelchocks that can accommodate both the J-15s and J-35s have already been installed on Liaoning during her recent MLU.

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Roughly translated:
The PLAN Naval Aviation University's (PLAN NAU from now on) mock flight deck already had its wheel chocks modified and is ready for J-35 stealth fighter operations.
This mock deck is of STOBAR-configuration, which means that it (the wheel chocks?) can also be used on the aircraft carrier Liaoning/Shandong...

Have a closer look at the older wheel chock:

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And compare it with the newer wheel chock:

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The older wheel chocks have 11 "blades", while the newer wheel chocks have 14 "blades". Also, the widening of the wheel chocks involved adding additional "blades" inwards (i.e. towards the center).

On one hand, this should confirm that the J-35s is indeed STOBAR-capable and will be capable of operating from Liaoning (and Shandong after her mid-life upgrade sometime in the future).

On the other hand, comparing the newer, wider wheel chocks at the PLAN NAU to the even wider wheel chocks on the Kuznetsov CV:

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We can see that while each of the twin wheel chocks on the Kuznetsov are divided into two halves with 11 "blades" on each halves (i.e. 22 "blades" in total), such that the outer halves are used for the SU-33 while the inner halves are used for the MiG-29K - The newer, wider wheel chocks at the PLAN NAU are operated as a whole.

This should mean that spacing between the rear undercarriages of the J-35 is pretty wide. Not as wide as the J-15, but certainly nowhere as narrow as the MiG-29K.

Original video segment of the wheel chocks:


@Deino @Blitzo FYA.
 
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Blitzo

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Speaking of which, an update:




Roughly translated:


Have a closer look at the older wheel chock:

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And compare it with the newer wheel chock:

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The older wheel chocks have 11 "blades", while the newer wheel chocks have 14 "blades". Also, the widening of the wheel chocks involved adding additional "blades" inwards (i.e. towards the center).

On one hand, this should confirm that the J-35s is indeed STOBAR-capable and will be capable of operating from Liaoning (and Shandong after her mid-life upgrade sometime in the future).

On the other hand, comparing the newer, wider wheel chocks at the PLAN NAU to the even wider wheel chocks on the Kuznetsov CV:

View attachment 127554

We can see that while each of the twin wheel chocks on the Kuznetsov are divided into two halves with 11 "blades" on each halves (i.e. 22 "blades" in total), such that the outer halves are used for the SU-33 while the inner halves are used for the MiG-29K - The newer, wider wheel chocks at the PLAN NAU are operated as a whole.

This should mean that spacing between the rear undercarriages of the J-35 is pretty wide. Not as wide as the J-15, but certainly nowhere as narrow as the MiG-29K.

Original video segment of the wheel chocks:


@Deino @Blitzo FYA.

It's useful circumstantial indicators to add, but I think it is also more of an academic exercise.

We've seen the J-35/XY mockup on Liaoning; regardless of how the details pan out, we already had an overwhelming basis to expect it to be part of the STOBAR carrier's airwing.
 

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TBF PLAN design is better than Ru Navy, as J-35 and J-15 use an identical set of SOP, which is simpler. On the Kuznetsov the operator need to choose inner or outer chock for different plane.
However, the next question would be: is it possible to operate KJ-600 on CV-16/17? The widened chock just eliminated the possibility of KJ-600 on liaoning, or KJ-600's landing gear is as much wide as J-15/35?
 

Deino

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TBF PLAN design is better than Ru Navy, as J-35 and J-15 use an identical set of SOP, which is simpler. On the Kuznetsov the operator need to choose inner or outer chock for different plane.
However, the next question would be: is it possible to operate KJ-600 on CV-16/17? The widened chock just eliminated the possibility of KJ-600 on liaoning, or KJ-600's landing gear is as much wide as J-15/35?


Why should a wider "chock just eliminated the possibility of KJ-600 on liaoning"? IMO it even more is a hint, it might be possible even if I still don't believe a KJ-600 will ever be operated off the Liaoning or Shandong.
 
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