J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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Martian

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Re: My first J-20 video. Try it!

Ooops...your video is blocked.

You mean by the Great Firewall of China? Does Youku have a website in English for me to upload the video?

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Alright Popeye, you've got a point. It will be the Raptor's peer someday.
 

bd popeye

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Thanks for posting that video. Answers a lot of questions..

I want to see the aircraft in flight..
I want to know about the powerplant and weapons load.
I want to know it's performance.

I'm happy you guys are using the new video host feature!.. Remember it only host videos from
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Finn McCool

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Wait a minute!! How is this aircraft the Raptors peer?

Riddle me this Batman!

What sort of engines does it have? Giving the fact the long development of the WS-10.. How fast is it? What is it's rate of climb? Does it have sawtooth leading edges? Is it truly stealthy? What is it's weapons load? Does it have a bomb bay? If not how many external hard points does it have? What's the electronic package? Give me the facts!

The USAF has 168 F-22s in operation.. and is building 19 more. How many J-20s does China have? Just askin'..

I don't think we're going to know this stuff for a long time. My personal conception of the situation at this point is that the J-XX is not quite at the level of the F-22, based mainly on how it looks (i.e. much bigger, slightly less stealthy looking) but that it is just about the only other true 4th gen aircraft in existence (except for maybe the T-50).
 

Quickie

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Re: My first J-20 video. Try it!

You mean by the Great Firewall of China? Does Youku have a website in English for me to upload the video?

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Alright Popeye, you've got a point. It will be the Raptor's peer someday.

I don't think the firewall extends out of China :D

Youtube have issue with the music!
 

kwaigonegin

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I don't think we're going to know this stuff for a long time. My personal conception of the situation at this point is that the J-XX is not quite at the level of the F-22, based mainly on how it looks (i.e. much bigger, slightly less stealthy looking) but that it is just about the only other true 4th gen aircraft in existence (except for maybe the T-50).

I think almost everyone would agree with your assessment. While the plane's design and performance is obviously critical, it's electronics and network centric capabilities of the platform also determines how effective it is especially when we're talking 5th gen aircraft. We probably won;t know the effectiveness of the latter for a very long time!!!
In some ways I think the J-20 also proves just how far ahead the F-22 is compared to it's peers. Most folks seem to forget that YF-22/23 first flew in 1990 and production F-22 rolled out maybe 5 yrs later and are pretty much the same as the ones we see flying today. I wouldn't be surprise if 6th Gen fighters are already in the works or prototypes maybe even flying at night around China Lake.
Kudos to China though for having come a long way. As the saying goes fake it till you make it! China's military development is getting to the threshold of maturity where they are now at the point that they can slowly tranverse from "faking" to "making".
 
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kickars

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I don't think we're going to know this stuff for a long time. My personal conception of the situation at this point is that the J-XX is not quite at the level of the F-22, based mainly on how it looks (i.e. much bigger, slightly less stealthy looking) but that it is just about the only other true 4th gen aircraft in existence (except for maybe the T-50).
I agree nobody knows what's the final 'spec' of J-20 now. I don't think they'll be officially released any time soon (maybe in 8-10 years time).

However, in terms of its 'look' I really don't think anyone including you can say J-20 is not quite at the level of F-22. Being bigger does not mean J-20 is slightly less stealthy. Not till we have the exact official data on this whole 'stealth' issue, nobody can say anything just based on those internet photos. Of course, everyone has the freedom to voice his/her subjective view on this forum.
 

bd popeye

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kickars, I agree with you. We are all wanting to know more information about this aircraft. Once again we have to wait...and wait.. and wait!
 

siegecrossbow

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Re: New Generation Fighter

Thanks for posting that video. Answers a lot of questions..

I want to see the aircraft in flight..
I want to know about the powerplant and weapons load.
I want to know it's performance.

Considering how China hasn't leaked all of J-10's performance specs I think it is safe to say that we won't know the true capabilities of this plane for another decade or so.
 
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