J-20... The New Generation Fighter

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EDIATH

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I'm going to go with REAL. We don't know what engines this thing has. They actually don't look like ws-10a to me. They are not light-colored. They seem to have a darker finish...but it's hard to tell with the pics we have.

Looks like it probably has canards, I want to see the shape of the wing/fuselage and the bottom of the aircraft....guess we will have to wait until it flies.

It is a little strange that it has what appears to be only a red star...and it almost looks painted. Seems to me that Chengdu wants to show this plane off, perhaps to China's leaders. Let's face it, it doesn't look as cool in yellow/light green as is does in black.

I am over-speculating though...

Note that it seems to have a pure bubble canopy...not even the T-50 has that.

I second that, guts instinct perhaps but I'll be damned if it's not real!

However I see no significance in the paint job, red star or not, it could just be ceremonial if CAC wants to give the customer namely PLAAF commanders a favourable impression.

Can't tell the engines are WS10A from the picture though. The only thing we are sure about is there will be major changes to the back section of fuselage due to changes of engines in future. There are still doubts about the inlets and wing shape which hopefully we'll find out soon.

The tailfins also look smallish, is that because they intend to rely more on engine TVC?
 

terrorhunter

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Still, by what leaked out this far, all pointed to yet another hoax...unless you chaps feel like to share the title of "SUCKER SUPREME" with Kanwa and Pinkov (the hoaxers' primary target, obviously), I suggest to shelf away the bells and cigars for now.

Say, since when do here fell in standard to on par with those in mainland China, get caught up in hype and hoax so easily? Was expecting cold observation from western world military fans unrealistic nowadays?

well from what has leaked out so far we can tell that the photos of the plane was taken from more than 1 angle and thats tedious work to PS a plane from different angles. plus we are getting these leaks from reputable people who know what they're doing and talking about so i would be careful with my words and avoid talking down on whoever and whatever you are trying to implicate lest i want to be embarrassed and humiliate myself
 

Lion

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well from what has leaked out so far we can tell that the photos of the plane was taken from more than 1 angle and thats tedious work to PS a plane from different angles. plus we are getting these leaks from reputable people who know what they're doing and talking about so i would be careful with my words and avoid talking down on whoever and whatever you are trying to implicate lest i want to be embarrassed and humiliate myself

Last time when the improve Yuan 039B comes out with blur photo images appear. Some China basher who were so sure of its non existence and PS photo that they bet with me that they will ban themselves if the thing is real. Guess who won in the end? ;)
 

AssassinsMace

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Re: New Generation Fighter

They don't care if it turns out to be real or not. They just want to be a poison pill. In another forum one poster about a week ago declared there was no J-XX program and it was all speculation. That being said I'm cautiously optimistic.

I would just like to see another angle especially in the air. That has to be one the worst angles you just can't get a good idea what it looks like.
 

Blitzo

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Some awesome (and very very fast) fan artwork...
Once again -- hot dayum!

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70092

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Re: New Generation Fighter

Looks like another pic of the fighter:

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AssassinsMace

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Not being an expert on these things, may someone explain why Aviation Week's Bill Sweetman wrote that China made a mistake in not making a STOVL variant? How would he know and why is that impotant this early on? I mean Richard Fisher has been writing that China is developing their own F-35B. That would about as accurate as making the assumption that China has no plan for STOVL variant.
 

Blitzo

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Not being an expert on these things, may someone explain why Aviation Week's Bill Sweetman wrote that China made a mistake in not making a STOVL variant? How would he know and why is that impotant this early on? I mean Richard Fisher has been writing that China is developing their own F-35B. That would about as accurate as making the assumption that China has no plan for STOVL variant.

Can you give a link to the article please?
 
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