J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

siegecrossbow said:

Just noticed that you posted the article on defencetalk too Blitz... wow was MIG upset...

One of my friends actually showed a USAF F-15 pilot the article and he had no bones to pick with it except that there were a few grammatical errors and found the basic premise plausible. He also showed it to Gambit on PDF who commended our efforts and agreed with some of the premises of the paper... (believe me it means a lot).

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interesting the same document is indiandefence but i never saw you gave a better counter argument, and by the way, that paper is 10 times much more proffessional than any thing i have seen here, see you in Indian defence, if you want to discuss it with me see you.

Conclusions
• Configuration characteristics
– large internal volume (i.e. munitions capacity)
– long range
– supercruise capability
• Optimized for use as a long-range interceptor
and air-to-surface attack platform
• Actual performance dependent upon engine
development



Optimized for use as a long-range interceptor
and air-to-surface attack platform

latenlazy said:

Wow...I am an awful awful person. The moment I saw article, and Mig, I instantly went to defencetalk to see the collateral. Do we know if the original article had citations?

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really? well in Indian defence they usually give thanks for the articles

kyanges said:

Who was arguing for what again? Was MiG29 supporting or discrediting the idea of LERXs in front of the J-20's canards? I know the discussion covered a lot more than this, but I'm just curious about what we "finally" have proof for.

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if you want to know my opinion in indian defence there are all the articles i posted and my opinions

MiG-29 said:

if you want to know my opinion in indian defence there are all the articles i posted and my opinions

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I thought over on defencetalk you said you weren't coming back to SDF?

If we want to know your opinion we have over a hundred pages to refer to...
And the article siege and no_name translated over on CeseDF wasn't meant to be professional, it was mean to be informative and from most people, the reception to most of the writing was positive. (I don't see exactly how the powerpoint you posted on defencetalk shows J-20 as a striker/interceptor either, we've made this clear time and time again).

(You know you can edit posts to add replies instead of having three consecutive posts, right?)

Bltizo said:

I thought over on defencetalk you said you weren't coming back to SDF?

If we want to know your opinion we have over a hundred pages to refer to...
And the article siege and no_name translated over on CeseDF wasn't meant to be professional, it was mean to be informative and from most people, the reception to most of the writing was positive. (I don't see exactly how the powerpoint you posted on defencetalk shows J-20 as a striker/interceptor either, we've made this clear time and time again).

(You know you can edit posts to add replies instead of having three consecutive posts, right?)

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i won`t post more here in that you are correct, i know this this forum is biased, this forum only good thing i like is the pictures, but aimarraul is basicly posting almost the same pictures in videos in indian defence if i will discuss topics with any of you it will be in fair ground here is not fair, it is pretty bias, and your article does not compare to this



if you want to discuss here is a fair ground at


see you have a good day

MiG-29 said:

i won`t post more here in that you are correct, i know this this forum is biased, this forum only good thing i like is the pictures, but aimarraul is basicly posting almost the same pictures in videos in indian defence if i will discuss topics with any of you it will be in fair ground here is not fair, it is pretty bias, and your article does not compare to this

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I'm not sure there is ever a forum one can consider "fair ground".

But whatever, good riddance then.

Turning the j-20 to a strike version seems abit ambitious at this stage. Does PLAAF have this kind of experience? I mean they just embarked on a new challenging journney with her first stealth fighter, i reckon better not to take detours right now.

getready said:

Mig29 is indian? I assumed he was russian. That kinda explains things

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I think we would be wise to not bring race into this

@Mig, of course the article siege and no_name doesn't compare to that slide show, it's infinitely better. Far easier to follow, gives good insight into the supposed development of the fighter and doesn't quote random numbers out of thin air as if it they were facts and then leading onto a seemingly irrelevant conclusion.

getready said:

Mig29 is indian? I assumed he was russian. That kinda explains things.

Turning the j-20 to a strike version seems abit ambitious at this stage. Does PLAAF have this kind of experience? I mean they just embarked on a new challenging journney with her first stealth fighter, i reckon better not to take detours right now.

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not indian at all, but if you want to know my ethnicity is Mexican, with family in Russia, Poland, Israel and of course Mexico and plenty of family in the US.

Fair enough, Blitzo. I'll delete that.