J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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FarkTypeSoldier

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Hmm ... anyway I would like to say good-bye for the next three weeks (familiy vacation at the see :p) ... but most likely without access to the www. :(

So PLEASE keep an open eye on anything interesting out there .... or better in (the hangars) there. :eek:



Deino

Enjoy times with your family... I will behave well here...

I believe the PLAAF will have something strong to show after the thunderstorms, time for batttle manuoveur...
 

Blitzo

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Hmm ... anyway I would like to say good-bye for the next three weeks (familiy vacation at the see :p) ... but most likely without access to the www. :(

So PLEASE keep an open eye on anything interesting out there .... or better in (the hangars) there. :eek:

Deino

Enjoy your vacation! See ya in three weeks, hopefully a lot for you to come back to ^^
 

no_name

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Pic showing composite use percentage of aircraft.

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Is ZXX Z-10? what's JX and JXXB (J-11, J11B J-10B)?

Can we say the newest aircraft is the J-20, then it will have around 30% composite in it's airframe. F-22 has about 25%.
 

Blitzo

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Where did you get the F-22's number from?

And I personally wouldn't trust this drawing very much... It seems very dated.
 

no_name

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I only have this pic:

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btw composite can have varying definition with some metal alloy qualifying for the term, but in this example seems to refer to resin substrate. F-35 is rumoured to have 35% (no don't have source)
 

Martian

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Global Security states F-22 is approximately 25% composites

Pic showing composite use percentage of aircraft.

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Is ZXX Z-10? what's JX and JXXB (J-11, J11B J-10B)?

Can we say the newest aircraft is the J-20, then it will have around 30% composite in it's airframe. F-22 has about 25%.

Where did you get the F-22's number from?

And I personally wouldn't trust this drawing very much... It seems very dated.

Citation from the mainstream and well-respected Global Security:

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"Validating structural materials is especially important to the F-22 because new material technologies were incorporated to maximize aircraft performance. The overall percentage of composites in the F-22 (approximately 25%) is historically high, though not unprecedented. However, the extensive application of Resin Transfer Molding (RTM) technology and high temperature bismaleimide (BMI) composite materials directly resulted in the high weight/performance efficiency the Raptor demonstrates. The use of metallics technologies such as titanium Hot Isostatic Pressed (HIP) castings and electron beam welding allowed the airframe designers to incorporate complex features into a single component without the weight of fastened assemblies. The continuing challenge is to reduce material and component costs through a constant reassessment of emerging technologies. Recently developed machining technologies, for instance, have allowed the inlet canted frame lip to be changed from a casting to a lower cost machined component with no appreciable weight penalty.

(article continues with technical details)"
 

siegecrossbow

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Entering rumour based speculations mode. Take what I am saying with a grain of salt!

Weather at Chengdu, according to yahoo weather, is gonna clear up in two days. Pupu claimed that WS-10B engines were sent to the CAC so I suspect that the next time the J-20 comes out we may see new engines with new nozzles.
 
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