J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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Eurgh I wonder if the guys at CAC have positioned the plane there knowing we'll only be able to see through the gap of the mesh the different position of the red star and thus tell it could possibly be a new prototype, while keeping the rest of the plane hidden by the mesh netting/fence. For instance if we had even a blurred pic of the nose, we could instantly confirm if this is 2003, and the presence or lack of, of a air data probe could tell us if it is indeed equipped with radar (and thus mission avionics).

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Bltizo said:
Eurgh I wonder if the guys at CAC have positioned the plane there knowing we'll only be able to see through the gap of the mesh the different position of the red star and thus tell it could possibly be a new prototype, while keeping the rest of the plane hidden by the mesh netting/fence. For instance if we had even a blurred pic of the nose, we could instantly confirm if this is 2003, and the presence or lack of, of a air data probe could tell us if it is indeed equipped with radar (and thus mission avionics).

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With that level of understanding of angles and the number crunching skill to get the perfect ones, you'd think they were a bunch of engineers or something. I doubt it.
 
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Said to be J-20 model in CAC building
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I am very surprised no one paid attention to this photo. This photo, particularly the model/concept, gives away a lot/as much as we can see from it. Aside from the shape resembling the current prototype, there's one significant difference: look at the aft of the aircraft, particularly where the engine nozzles should be. The aft looked different from the current ones, which are round and protruding out. The difference in this aft makes me wonder if this is supposed to be the "finalized concept" with WS-15 and all and how it looks. Also the non-protrude aft completes the graceful "curve" or shape of the entire plane. I wonder if that does/enhances stealth as well.

Of course we can argue this photo is open to skepticism as genuine or not, but at least this is what we see now. If it's real, this speaks "a lot" about the finalized engine nozzle/product and what it might be like. The "somewhat-flatness" or "lack of curves" for the nozzle shapes might imply it is 2-D? Or even if 3D, it might be a new design that's stealthy?
 
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Honestly I wouldn't try to extrapolate too much from it. The differences could easily just be down to sloppiness on the part of the model maker, and for all we know it isn't in CAC at all.

It doesn't look like a model either, looks like some kind of weird hologram
 
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airsuperiority said:
I am very surprised no one paid attention to this photo. This photo, particularly the model/concept, gives away a lot/as much as we can see from it. Aside from the shape resembling the current prototype, there's one significant difference: look at the aft of the aircraft, particularly where the engine nozzles should be. The aft looked different from the current ones, which are round and protruding out. The difference in this aft makes me wonder if this is supposed to be the "finalized concept" with WS-15 and all and how it looks. Also the non-protrude aft completes the graceful "curve" or shape of the entire plane. I wonder if that does/enhances stealth as well.

Of course we can argue this photo is open to skepticism as genuine or not, but at least this is what we see now. If it's real, this speaks "a lot" about the finalized engine nozzle/product and what it might be like. The "somewhat-flatness" or "lack of curves" for the nozzle shapes might imply it is 2-D? Or even if 3D, it might be a new design that's stealthy?
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I did comment on it, as did one other person earlier in the thread, but we didn't really speculate too much.

It's possibly actually a design prior to the one flying now. At least, the wings are probably an older design that's since been changed into the current one. I have also often thought that maybe the nozzles jutting out of the rear end on the current J-20 are just temporary.

But if the future version had engines that were recessed so far into the body as the model shows, wouldn't any engine that could fit in that space, nozzle and all, be really short? I mean, really short. I don't know much about engine design, so I wouldn't mind someone who does to chime in here. But I kind of figured engines that short, and in the class that the J-20 is eventually supposed to be packing, wouldn't work.

And another thought. Let's say that those engines do work though, and the model, specifically the engine part, is really the shape of things to come. Would what's shown in the model, with the completely flat, straight backs, be stealthy? Every stealthy nozzle design I've seen has been a triangular one.

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Or we could just consider what Blitzo just said, and just note its existence for now...
 
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airsuperiority said:
I am very surprised no one paid attention to this photo. This photo, particularly the model/concept, gives away a lot/as much as we can see from it. Aside from the shape resembling the current prototype, there's one significant difference: look at the aft of the aircraft, particularly where the engine nozzles should be. The aft looked different from the current ones, which are round and protruding out. The difference in this aft makes me wonder if this is supposed to be the "finalized concept" with WS-15 and all and how it looks. Also the non-protrude aft completes the graceful "curve" or shape of the entire plane. I wonder if that does/enhances stealth as well.

Of course we can argue this photo is open to skepticism as genuine or not, but at least this is what we see now. If it's real, this speaks "a lot" about the finalized engine nozzle/product and what it might be like. The "somewhat-flatness" or "lack of curves" for the nozzle shapes might imply it is 2-D? Or even if 3D, it might be a new design that's stealthy?
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Wind tunnel models usually don't have the engine nozzles incorporated into the design.
 
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