J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

kyanges said:

All I see is what looks like the same silver regular round nozzle.

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. I do see ventral fins too.

I obviously don't see anything other than that though.

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Sorry, but then You mixed the new one (on top) with the old one (below) ... at least I think ?!

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Lion said:

Looks like my prediction of J-20 induction date is getting some steam.. If the new or 2nd prototype come out in june or before. Most likely they are stepping into high gear for testing of J-20. Operation date of J-20 (Year 2013-2014) is still highly possible.

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I think they will need 4-5 prototypes for all testing. That will take around 5 years. so 2013-2014 is still "highly impossible".

Even the the 2nd prototype may still retain round nozzle. Very high chances, it is WS-15 debuting.

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Better wait to see it before implying that.

IMHO nozzles and engines are secondary respect to radar presence on the 2° protoype, of course would be fantastic if China were already testing such advanced engines, but my impression is that China has more a problem of "quantiy of the quality" than pure quality so they would be better working hard to make j20 operative as soon es possible. For example if china will produce from now to 2020-2025 tons of j10b complemented by a rising number fo j20 China would finally became an airforce superpower. On the other hand if j10b is produced in limited quantities and j20 will be mass-produced far after 2015 they will be weaker.
For now, it is great if this is the second prototype, and very nice if it has a radar on it.

Krabat1976 said:

IMHO but my impression is that China has more a problem of "quantiy of the quality" than pure quality so they would be better working hard to make j20 operative as soon es possible.

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I don't understand what do you mean by this sentence.. It's sound contradicting. If you follow PLAAF doctrine enough.

Deino said:

Sorry, but then You mixed the new one (on top) with the old one (below) ... at least I think ?!

Here's a slightly larger one ...

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Ah. If I'm wrong, then I'm happy to be so, lol. I want to see some bigger changes in the 2nd prototype, even though I know that's unlikely.

kyanges said:

All I see is what looks like the same silver regular round nozzle.

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. I do see ventral fins too.

I obviously don't see anything other than that though.

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That's the old one lol. The new one is on top.

I no longer remember, were there one or two prototypes of J-20, before and after the maiden flight?

siegecrossbow said:

That's the old one lol. The new one is on top.

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Like I said, glad to be wrong in this case. .

Lion said:

I don't understand what do you mean by this sentence.. It's sound contradicting. If you follow PLAAF doctrine enough.

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I believed he meant mass production of high tech stuff quickly and readily available for either export or immediate defense purposes. I hope I'm not confusing you.

This picture is from the time before J-20's first flight. I'm posting this here for lulz. We can see the amount of work that people are willing to put in in their desperation to dismiss the J-20: