J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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Player99

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Let's stick to reality instead of conjuring up scenarios, shall we?

Hehe, I think by "reality" you meant "facts", as reality to different people can be totally different. If you read Chinese and have read some of the stuff some Chinese netizens have dished out, you'd find yourself in a reality quite justifying the "conjured up scenarios"... You may substitute such Chinese stuff with the equally or more obnoxious and/or ridiculous Bharat Rakshak stuff if you don't read Chinese...

The ubiquitous preposterousness aside, I, a Chinese living in China, think such accelerated development process of the J-20 and the to-be-revealed domestic aircraftcarriers is necessary. And the six-or-more-J-20-protorypes rumor is believable.
 
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Player99

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Yes, I can assure you that from this side of the pond, there are many who are concerned about our own defense as well, and while no one desires to return to the cold war, I think mutual strength and respect is a good place for all the players to be. I can assure you that the American people value the relationships that we have with other leaders in the world. As a pilot and defense enthusiast, I am pleased, but slightly amused to see the Chengdo daily/weekly airshow starring the J-20. I honestly think this bode well for Sino-American relationships, as much of what we do is defense marketing, its interesting to see the J-20 being actively shown and marketed.

Agreed (based on my more than twenty years of working with and living among the American people and my understanding of the human species in general).
 

Engineer

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The ubiquitous preposterousness aside, I, a Chinese living in China, think such accelerated development process of the J-20 and the to-be-revealed domestic aircraftcarriers is necessary. And the six-or-more-J-20-protorypes rumor is believable.

To clarify my position, I never claimed that multiple prototypes is not necessary, only that I do not think this would be the case this early on in the flight test program.
 

Player99

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I'm glad to know you know North Carolina and I have often thought I would love to visit the far east again. We had a Cessna 172 and if you get back over my little brother still has his license current, maybe we could go flying or a least have a good steak, well I better turn in before the boss wakes up and says what are you doing. Keep us up to date, and we have a an F-35 thread as well.

The thought of getting aboard a friend's Cessna makes me drool, hehe... You know what, in the mid-90's, my dream (it was more of a plan then) was to get a professorship in a couple of years, and then buy myself a ranch, and then get me a Masquito M80 kit to build (I wish they had succeded in that endeavor. What a cute little helo!)... Ah, those worry-free years...
 
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Player99

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To clarify my position, I never claimed that multiple prototypes is not necessary, only that I do not think this would be the case this early on in the flight test program.

Hehe, I know that. My point was in the last sentence. My bad, I sometimes tend to throw in more than necessary in replying...
 

Player99

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by himitechworld via houshanghai @ defpk, probably the last few test before holidays

a good year by the Chengdu guys, and wish you a prosperous and successful new year

reportedly 08-1-2012 and 13-01-2012

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Is there a picture? I see only a large blank space, even after refreshing twice. A link would be nice, for me to have a look see.
 

Air Force Brat

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Thats right Letz, during initial test flights landing gear are often left down for the reasons you mentioned, plus aircraft have more drag, which serves as a crude speed brake. The advantage is you can carry more power to keep electrical power levels up and airspeeds down, and during early flight testing of a prototype the usual protocol is to explore the low speed regime to kind of get a feel for the flight characteristics, slow flight and even stalls or spins, most prototypes are equipped with a spin chute to be deployed if directional control is lost. Eng is probably right about the number of prototypes player, but my observation of J-20 is they are flying it a lot, and the flight test regime appears to have been accelerated from what we would normally see in the West.
 

Player99

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Thats right Letz, during initial test flights landing gear are often left down for the reasons you mentioned, plus aircraft have more drag, which serves as a crude speed brake.

Brat, that reminds me of a comment by that same person who insisted that there were at least six J-20's. He said that the fact that we saw, after so many months of tests, again and again the J-20 leaving its landing gears down and its braking chute pod (what do you call that thing?) open during flight indicates that there have been newer J-20's joining the tests. For only new ones need the extra caution for their initial tests.
 

Air Force Brat

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Well player a lot of us had dreams, and then we grew up, there are still lots of cool little Helo's, if you get back over around the end of July or the first of August they have the EAA fly-in at Oshkosh Wisconsin, I'm about due for a trip back. A few years ago they had a mig-15 and mig-17 there with the afterburner, along with an F-86 so those guys played around a little. Thats where I was able to see the F-22 up close and personal and what a gorgeous bird it is, shame the politicians succeeded in killing a great airplane to promote an also ran, I was a little skeptical about the J-20 until the eng set me straight, and I love the Pak Fa, in fact if you're wondering what to get me for Christmas next year? I'd take any one of the three.
 
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