Thought some of those questions were pretty valid (at least the one about servicing). Nonetheless just because they bought new AL-31s does not mean they don't think the Taihang isn't better. It's a matter of production capacity and supply, and obviously the AL-31 is still sufficient to fill in while production lags behind.
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actually it was i who suggested that AL-31 is perhaps more reliable, we do have J-10 crash due to engine problem, if we want to be balanced we have to recognize the huge amount of fly hours J-10 accumulated through the years with the AL-31
you will have to come with more facts to call it unreliable, and sorry it reminds me of other people who say WS-10 is 150 hours MTBO junk
and yet first J-10Bs fly with AL-31
can we continue the discussion somewhere else, i made a thread specially for this :
http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/members-club-room/sdf-aerospace-aerodynamics-corner-5801.html
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how many hours have the Al-31 performed on J-10s? and how many hours have been achieved by WS-10?
why buy more Al-31s?
Of course an engine with 30 years of production is more reliable than an engine that has not even replaced the Al-31s in J-10s and J-11s
They have a new Massive re haul plant in chengdu especially for AL-31 engines. T is also the plant responsible for extending the life of AL-31 engine by 60 percent. Tell me, if they stop completely buying new AL-31 engines. What happen to the equipment and facilities? Those exist AL-31 engines are Goin to expire soon.. Isn't it a waste to just change the tools for it?
Yes. They designed J-10B fitted with more reliable Taihang. And instead of building new perfect J-10B with Taihang, they continue to build J-10As with these coward unreliable AL-31FN. Masochists, as I said.
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China has planes to replace, and J-10B still has a while before being ready. Flight test takes years to complete. What else do you expect them to make in the mean time?
Regardless of how you try to go off tangent, the fact remains that Al-31 caused numerous J-10s to crash, showing the suggestion that Al-31 to be more reliable as shaky.
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China has planes to replace, and J-10B still has a while before being ready. Flight test takes years to complete. What else do you expect them to make in the mean time?
How bad is it? How many have crashed? There must be close to 200 J-10 in-service now...
You could compare with the F-16 attrition and see whether J-10 has been unreliable... Arthur Hubers @ AFM calls the F-16 lawn-darts
I'm asking for the third time - how many Js crashed due to AL-31FN? how that corresponds to all crash statistics? how that corresponds to total number of J-10A built and fleet flight hours on AL-31FN? what was exact cause of crash? did you see AIB reports? how old was that concrete AL-31FN? howm many hours it was in use before crash? wasn't that refurbished AL-31FN? give us facts, not just your emotions, otherwise it's all stay blah-blah
I think I'm quickly turning into your internet groupie.
Though, I do wonder...how do you know this?
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