J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

52nd flight yesterday. Waiting for the pictures to come out.

Engineer said:

As for pictures of nozzles, they don't look anything like the nozzle on an Al-31.

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actually, they look just like AL-31 nozzles that got some LO treatment and got painted silver
and this paint tends to be scrapped - at the same specific places as on ordinary AL-31 nozzle petals


now count number of petals and number and position of radial flameholders on J-20. they are barely visible, but you can fill the gaps using entry school geometry skills. somehow you will get number 11 for last ones, placed exactly like on AL-31. how many of them on WS-10?



regarding spy pics of full-scale engine mockup on trailer with 10 flameholders - THAT can be WS-10X(G) or even WS-15

of course, this is IMO. confirmed by Maya, though

flateric said:

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of course, this is IMO. confirmed by Maya, though

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Yup.... maya himself had a nice comparison showing why this is unlikely to be a WS-1x series. From the behind it looked more like what the Su-34 has IIRC....

btw, few lines from 2010 yearly report of one Russian CATIK subcontractor

flateric said:

btw, few lines from 2010 yearly report of one Russian CATIK subcontractor

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Bltizo said:

Omg this again? There's nothing to support the idea the radar is PESA apart from that it has dipoles. We've heard barely any, if any development at all in PESA pathway, it's all been AESA.
The dipoles argument is not fully strong because none of us are experts in this field, and cannot say whether or not there would be a reason for AESA to field what looks like IFF dipoles.

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Bill Sweetman does not believe IFF poles point to PESA

Nice ....

Deino said:

Nice ....

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Steep climb?

yes, but the million dollar question is always, how steep, how high, and how fast

some observations :
clouds in the background provides us the horizon, so it is a vertical climb
shot from a chase plane, or immediately after take off, most probably the latter
same surface controls position with take off
starboard flap in down position, vortices formation in opposite sides of canard and flap

i kinda love and hate how photos from the fans are somehow more pleasing than informative, though just not clear enough

Hyperwarp said:

Yup.... maya himself had a nice comparison showing why this is unlikely to be a WS-1x series. From the behind it looked more like what the Su-34 has IIRC....

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when did maya said that j-20 has AL-31 ?