J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

Quickie said:

The maker of the J-20 would likely design the aircraft based on performance requirement alone, just like they do for other earlier gen aircrafts. To them, how it'll turn out aesthetically is almost irrelevant. I suspect American aircraft designers work towards making an aircraft that meets both the performance and aesthetics department.

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*cough* F32

CottageLV said:

I feel J20 looks more alive, more similar to a living animal. It's also more masculine. But I still feel the rear end near the engine was a half ass job by the designer.
F22 on the other hand looks a bit like it's designed early stage computer software, which it was. It's too lego like.

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Considering the J20's intended engines are not even ready yet, what did you expect?

It would be silly to waste time and effort to make the back-end look pretty when the plan has always been to put in new engines and maybe also new nozzles for the initial production model. The current engine solution is a space holder, and that is why it doesn't look polished.

Fact of the matter is, for a first prototype, the J20 is actually remarkably polished and refined as it is.

There are two prototype of the j-20, but I've never seen pics of the 2002

Quickie said:

The maker of the J-20 would likely design the aircraft based on performance requirement alone, just like they do for other earlier gen aircrafts. To them, how it'll turn out aesthetically is almost irrelevant. I suspect American aircraft designers work towards making an aircraft that meets both the performance and aesthetics department.

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any designer works for functionality, not aesthetics, we humans give the beauty based upon many factors.

The J-20 is beautiful in its own way, i do not think it is ugly, but definitively i like more J-10B, i like more ventral intakes and twin seaters.

T-50 is not ugly but it does not make me feel is very beautiful.

The F-22 is rather conventional but i like its radome is more ogive like, J-20`s is more triangular or conic.

In looks i like more the F-22 than T-50, F-35 or J-20 of these 5th generation fighters.

From 4th generation my favorites are F-16, MiG-29 and F-14, but in reality i like most 4th generations F-15, F-18, Rafale, Lavi and Su-27 i feel they are really beautiful and Gripen, Eurofighter, AMX,LCA, Harrier, Ching Kuo, JH-7A or J-10 are okay but not my favorites, Mirage 2000 and MiG-31 well are okay but they are not my favorite too.

Third generation well MiG-23, AJ-37, A-4, Su-24, F-111 are my favorites.

But if someone asks me what jets i really like i would say MiG-29, Su-24, F-14 and F-16

you're old school, my favorite aircraft is Su-27
J-20 and T-50 will have to wait until they come of age

and yes no engineer design for aesthetics, but as they say if it looks good, it flies good

paintgun said:

you're old school, my favorite aircraft is Su-27
J-20 and T-50 will have to wait until they come of age

and yes no engineer design for aesthetics, but as they say if it looks good, it flies good

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well i was borned in 1971, when i was a child, the MiG-23 was a very secretive fighter few pictures were available, in 1986 i saw the first pictures of MiG-29 and as a 15 year old boy i was over excited, my first glimpse of a chinese designed jet was a rare picture of a J-8 in the late 1980s.

I watched Topgun many times.

Now is incredible you just get on line and you find videos pictures and J-20 was an internet product, when i was a boy a magazine my brother bought titled Soviet military magazine had few pictures of MiG-23Ms that were like gold for my young mind.

now at 40, well yeah i grew on the Topgun generation, i am of the generation Eurofighter was super modern now Eurofighter loooks obsolete compared to J-20 and MiG-29 a cold war relic and the MiG-23 well as the Me-109 was in 1984 when my brother gave me as a present that magazine

Su-27 / Flanker series are all beautiful aircraft. The Soviet Blackjack bomber is also quite elegant.

Of course, can you really say an aircraft is actually attractive? What I mean is that you build up connotations regarding their attractiveness based on their performance; what you see is a symbol of military might or technological capability, and that symbolic character clouds your perception of their actual aesthetic worth. The YF-32 might have been quite beautiful if you saw in constant aerobatic maneuver.

yes that's one way to define it, it's each person's perception

when i see F-22 doing tight Gs or vertical climb, it's a powerful beast
when i see a Flanker yaws, turns and rolls, i see a graceful plane
J-20 is hmm... enigmatic? dark and mysterious, black paints do work wonders!

@getready, sexy = the same excitement without the lust

@Great China, and you probably never will

May I ask what these "my fighter is nicer than Yours ?" or "I like better ... !" has to do with J-20-news ???

Deino

sorry, i'll keep my comments to news only