J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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AssassinsMace

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There is an option to not rescale under the upload bar for imageshack.

The mods might want to clarify this but I believe this forum automatically reduces oversized images to 800x561. I believe I read something of that from one of the Webmaster's posts. Which is why no one saw the skirt and heels I mentioned standing in the middle of the ramp of a Varyag pic. These days in SDF if I see a pic in here first, I have to go looking at other sites for the original sized image.
 

delft

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If you're talking about the massive one air data probe, that will only present on initial prototypes and test aircraft. That massive thing and the computers behind it takes up the space where a radar would sit as well.

If you're talking about the smaller tubes further down the nose, they will likely be on the production aircraft. Production F-22 and 35 have pitot tubes too.
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It must be possible to determine the dynamic pressure from an array of static pressure ports distributed over the forward ~third of an aircraft. You have to calibrate the measurement for aircraft attitude, Mach number and curved flight and if you lose you computer you're as helpless as those pilots in Air France 447 over the South Atlantic two years ago.
I'm not sure that it will be worthwhile.
 

CottageLV

Banned Idiot
It's not about realistic anot. It's already become a must. PLA Top brass know that to close the gap with US in air supremacy. It is the IOC date and no other. It is further than that, it serves no purpose as US will probably have a block II F-22 or more advance in 2018-2020..

I believe the one we see at Chengdu in the eyes of the public is not the latest J-20 development. The on at chengdu is just for public consume. Who the hell will test a latest state of art fighter jet in a crowded city and in the eyes of so many people?

The real test will probably conduct in inner Xi an test center, far away from public test. As for what kind of stages, it has reached. I can't answer but will be far more advance than what we seen in chengdu.

Just like J-10B, we have just seen J-10B appear with WS-10 then the top brass talk about equip PAF with these birds next year without even mentioning whether seeking Russia approval for re - export of engine. It's very clear, the engine for PAF will be WS-10. But we just seen it tested on this 05 prototype in the July - August date. You can imagine actually, how and earlier they have already tested J-10B with WS-10 trial since next year they are confident to equip PAF or PLAAF with it. Must early than what we have seen with 05 prototype.

Xi'an is a even bigger city, even if not more populated.....
 

Player99

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Hey guys, why haven't many of you rushed to digest the piece I had posted days ago? That would have told you so many things about the stages at which the J-20 and J-10 have been! You would not have had to guesstimate like bunch of blind people trying to figure out how an elephant is like by touching and groping it all the places... :)

I know I know, we just like the fun of theorizing, arguing, debating, and of playing aircraft engineers, disgners, analysts, etc. etc.

Hehe, I think the above should go to Keypublishing, BR, and their likes. In that case, I should add:

Learn some Chinese, guys! If by any chance China won't implode for another 10 years, you may find your Chinese helpful when you want to make some easy Yuan in that commie land.
 

FarkTypeSoldier

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Hey guys, why haven't many of you rushed to digest the piece I had posted days ago? That would have told you so many things about the stages at which the J-20 and J-10 have been! You would not have had to guesstimate like bunch of blind people trying to figure out how an elephant is like by touching and groping it all the places... :)

I know I know, we just like the fun of theorizing, arguing, debating, and of playing aircraft engineers, disgners, analysts, etc. etc.

Hehe, I think the above should go to Keypublishing, BR, and their likes. In that case, I should add:

Learn some Chinese, guys! If by any chance China won't implode for another 10 years, you may find your Chinese helpful when you want to make some easy Yuan in that commie land.

Be mindful of your tone of your reply. No abusive language of other people's country! Readers might think you post racist comments. Cheers!
 

Blitzo

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Hey guys, why haven't many of you rushed to digest the piece I had posted days ago? That would have told you so many things about the stages at which the J-20 and J-10 have been! You would not have had to guesstimate like bunch of blind people trying to figure out how an elephant is like by touching and groping it all the places... :)

If you think it's good then how about you translate those parts for us? I mean if you can already read and understand well...
 

Maggern

Junior Member
fall semester picking up pace, yaknow

The PLA should take some responsibility and reveal some kind of new, fancy hardware to keep interest up. Or else we newsjunkies might as well find some other country's military to follow :p
 

Player99

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If you think it's good then how about you translate those parts for us? I mean if you can already read and understand well...

Hehe... Blitizo, I did translate some key points thereof. And another guy (sorry for not remembering his ID off hand) also did a translation of the gist of it. But it seems the article lacks credibility to readers here, judging by the unwillingness to refer to it for clues.

P.S. Sorry it is Bltizo, not Blitizo! ...How do you pronounce it and what does it mean?
 
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latenlazy

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Hehe... Blitizo, I did translate some key points thereof. And another guy (sorry for not remembering his ID off hand) also did a translation of the gist of it. But it seems the article lacks credibility to readers here, judging by the unwillingness to refer to it for clues.
Or yano...all the people who can translate are really freakin busy.
 
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