J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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AssassinsMace

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The usual suspects in the military forums are going stick their fingers in their ears and go, "lalalalalalalalalala..." after reading that.


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Lion

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Morning News Russian MiG aircraft production and design of the Commonwealth Fedorova, spokesman to the official Russian news agency on Friday said both past and present, Russia does not sell any parts to China and technology to help China develop the F - 20 fifth-generation fighter, the future will not do.
Earlier, some Russian media reports, China's use of F -20 MiG Russian fifth generation fighter technology and parts -1.44, and -1.44 F -20 with the shape similar to the MiG.

Fedorova emphasized that her company has not signed with China in the development of fifth generation fighter to any agreement, Russia not to provide any MiG -1.44 Chinese technology and components. MiG -1.44 started developing in the former Soviet Union, is designed to counter the U.S. F-22 fighters. After the disintegration of the Soviet Union, the development of the MiG was -1.44 bogged down because of lack of funding. But as the Russian financial situation improved, developed MiG -1.44 resume again, and in 2000 the first launch test. But the Russian Defense Ministry that the MiG -1.44 development cycle is too long, the use of related technology has become obsolete, so give up the MiG -1.44 in favor of the development of the Sukhoi T-50 type fifth-generation fighter.

You just burst some China haters dreams.. They will hate you for doing this. In their sterotyper world, China only know how to copy.

LOL.
 

latenlazy

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Precisely my point.. I dont know what is the obssess with TVC? Just because F-22 and T-50 have TVC so J-20 must follow? No TVC, means no super agility?

You must remember F-22 and T-50 are conventional design while J-20 is advance canard position.

J-10 and Typhoon and Rafale has already demonstrated high speed agility of canard design in absent of TVC.
In fact, I believe adding this 2 together will make each other redunbant by adding up complexity, weight and thrust.

I believe thrust and reliability will still be priority. Final J-20 will canard and a redesign nozzle but no TVC.
Not everyone's saying the J-20 must have TVC to compete, it's just contrary to what we've been hearing for so long.
 

GreenestGDP

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Huzhigeng commenting on Russian involvement in the J-20 project:

...... However the 611 research facility has good relations with the MIG corporation. A long time ago 611 learned very important stuff from the Russians as well. The Russians did contribute to the development of the J-20. Take the Russian experts at 611, for example. We've seen quite a few in past photos.


Bravo, it is about time some top expert in China giving the Russians the much deserved and proper credits for all the Russian scientists contributions over the years.

By acknowledging the friendly and ultra close working relationship between China and Russian scientists (Even though they may not be that close in reality) -- will caused the other leading air force to lose sleep at night and be extremely nervous at the prospect of facing the combined duo power of China and Russia. :D :p
 
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A.Man

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Bravo, it is about time some top expert in China giving the Russians the much deserved and proper credits for all the Russian scientists contributions over the years.

By acknowledging the friendly and ultra close working relationship between China and Russian scientists (Even though they may not be that close in reality) -- will caused the other leading air force to lose sleep at night and be extremely nervous at the prospect of facing the combined duo power of China and Russia. :D :p

If China paid for those Russian scientists working in China, their products should be considered to be "Made In China."
 

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Do I see zig-zag lines on the main bay !?? :p
 

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siegecrossbow

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Do I see zig-zag lines on the main bay !?? :p

You sound surprised... It is only logical for the CAC to "zig-zag" the weapons bay if they've done it for the landing gears.

By the way today is the 38th flight.
 
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