J-20... The New Generation Fighter III

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That's an amazing picture. You can clearly see the serrations on the ventral bay now. I've said it once, I'll say it again. CAC really have outdone themselves, paying attention to all the little details. I wonder if they had a hand in modifying the engine's nozzle, just to serrate that as well.
 

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One feeling I get from looking at the picture.

The front half of the plane's body consist of the weapons bay. It extends as far as the landing gears. Does this mean that the second half of the plane consist mostly of engines or something? What is in that long length in between besides fuel tanks?
 

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I noticed that too. Before we got these clear pictures showing the ventral bay as it was, I thought there might have been another weapons bay behind the main one, or that the main one was slightly longer, but that obviously isn't the case now.

I wonder whether the extra length could be for placing the engines deeper into the fuselage to decrease the IR signature? And also there's a possibility they might want to add F-22 style nozzles -- which adds some significant length to the overall aircraft -- and the extra length for the rear fuselage is a provision for that.
 

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I noticed that too. Before we got these clear pictures showing the ventral bay as it was, I thought there might have been another weapons bay behind the main one, or that the main one was slightly longer, but that obviously isn't the case now.

I wonder whether the extra length could be for placing the engines deeper into the fuselage to decrease the IR signature? And also there's a possibility they might want to add F-22 style nozzles -- which adds some significant length to the overall aircraft -- and the extra length for the rear fuselage is a provision for that.

huzhigeng said the plane will have 3d tvc in the end. So far his only unverified claim is the adjustable DSI so I think he is pretty reliable in such matters.
 

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huzhigeng said the plane will have 3d tvc in the end. So far his only unverified claim is the adjustable DSI so I think he is pretty reliable in such matters.

What other claims has made so far?

And even if it was 3D TVC it could still be possible to emplace the engines deeper to decrease IR signature (if that even works). I wonder if the 3D nozzle will be the conventional round ish ones we see on Russian fighters or a newer design like the Japanese proposal for their ATD-X.
 

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What other claims has made so far?

And even if it was 3D TVC it could still be possible to emplace the engines deeper to decrease IR signature (if that even works). I wonder if the 3D nozzle will be the conventional round ish ones we see on Russian fighters or a newer design like the Japanese proposal for their ATD-X.

He successfully predicted the canards, the DSI intakes, the LERX (even the shape of the LERX), and emphasized the fact that the J-20 was thin and long. There was a translation I did about a year back on the original next gen fighter thread.
 

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I wonder whether the extra length could be for placing the engines deeper into the fuselage to decrease the IR signature? And also there's a possibility they might want to add F-22 style nozzles -- which adds some significant length to the overall aircraft -- and the extra length for the rear fuselage is a provision for that.


I was wondering if anyone else might have had the same thought. There was this old chart though. If it's accurate, it doesn't really allow for that possibility, doesn't it? I mean, how much further could the engines really be pushed forward into the fuselage? And if they can't, and TVC would add even more length, then what would that imply for the J-20?

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Has the above image already proven to be purely speculation?
 
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