The plane won't be ready for another 4 or 5 years minimum. I actually think that the J-20 is more of a "smoke screen" designed to distract Western observers from the J-10B, which will enter service later this year.
J-20... The New Generation Fighter II
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The plane won't be ready for another 4 or 5 years minimum. I actually think that the J-20 is more of a "smoke screen" designed to distract Western observers from the J-10B, which will enter service later this year.
Not much to screen... J-10b, as capable as it will be is only in the f-16e class.
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Typically by skin color and maybe whether he "fits the crowd"? I imagine the community of pla plane watchers are a tight knit bunch.
Either way can we stop talking about CIA an spies and hand held radars?? Once you delve into the realm of ridiculousness it's fair game for all, and there are the standards sdf needs to keep up
Typically by skin color and maybe whether he "fits the crowd"? I imagine the community of pla plane watchers are a tight knit bunch.
Either way can we stop talking about CIA an spies and hand held radars?? Once you delve into the realm of ridiculousness it's fair game for all, and there are the standards sdf needs to keep up
In other words enough to serve China's defensive needs until F-35 enters service in other Asian countries.
Yes, but it's not so important or that capable and would be a game changer that it needs to be screened or have attention diverted somewhere else.
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The irony is how people can be confused at the super secret police state of a communist government that can have absolute control of the lives of 1.3 billion people having a test facility near a heavy residential area yet somehow foreign spies can so easily drag in electronic equipment through China and gather intelligence on the J-20 without being noticed. Just remember how many people said the J-20 was impossible for the Chinese based on what? Intelligence from the very same people who can so easily enter China with sensitive advanced equipment to gather intelligence on the J-20? This is just a case of some getting confused believing their own propaganda.
The fact is China is apparently very good at counter-intelligence. There was a book released last year on CIA failures throughout its history. One was the whole Tibetan insurgency army the CIA was training back in the 50s and 60s. Did you know every one of them that the CIA sent into China was never heard from again? Then there was another incident where the CIA had heard on high authority someone high in the PLA wanted to defect and they sent in CIA agents to secretly fly into China to pick this guy up. When they landed the authorities were already there to capture them.
The fact is China is apparently very good at counter-intelligence. There was a book released last year on CIA failures throughout its history. One was the whole Tibetan insurgency army the CIA was training back in the 50s and 60s. Did you know every one of them that the CIA sent into China was never heard from again? Then there was another incident where the CIA had heard on high authority someone high in the PLA wanted to defect and they sent in CIA agents to secretly fly into China to pick this guy up. When they landed the authorities were already there to capture them.
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No, J-10B would only be, at best, F-16C/D Block 52 grade material, while the world is moving towards 5th gen fighters - or UACV for the more radical - by the late half of the decade. In short, J-10B only allow China a more favorable position, alas a slightly inferior one, compare with the 1st World standard.
So the "J-20" or Project 817 is for something else entirely. Remember, "officially" it doesn't exist, the best we can get out of it is far zoom shots, no workshop photos, no detail closeups. It's more like showcase China can make quasi 5th-gen fighters (full fledged 5th-gen it'll be once the engine problem is solved), and it ain't like the Monkey God in folklore that it came out of a stone...
^ I do dispute that. The j-10b is analogous to f-16e. F-16cds don't have aesa nor irst or the integrated ECM offered by the e version and the j-10b.
And I think even if j-20 entered service without the supercriising WS-15 it can still be considered 5th gen if it has everything else. F-35 doesn't have supercruise remember.
Also the world isn't moving to 5th gen and ucavs... Only the us. No other country has a ucav program that is definitiely going to enter service in the near future (china isn't too far behind in this regard either, sac is supposedly going to fly an x-47b analogue this year or next), and the jsf partners will receive their first f-35s only a few years before the plaaf gets the first j-20s, maybe even after. And the Pak fa is only a year ahead of j-20 at best and its future is dependent on Indian funding too.
J-10b will be competitive with all other aircraft aside from the raptor and f-35... Basically any other air force aside from the USAF. The UK, France, Europe, Russia and India will all have mostly 4th gen fleets by late this decade and the US too most likely. The j-10b will remain relevant, even after j-20 enters service.
And I think even if j-20 entered service without the supercriising WS-15 it can still be considered 5th gen if it has everything else. F-35 doesn't have supercruise remember.
Also the world isn't moving to 5th gen and ucavs... Only the us. No other country has a ucav program that is definitiely going to enter service in the near future (china isn't too far behind in this regard either, sac is supposedly going to fly an x-47b analogue this year or next), and the jsf partners will receive their first f-35s only a few years before the plaaf gets the first j-20s, maybe even after. And the Pak fa is only a year ahead of j-20 at best and its future is dependent on Indian funding too.
J-10b will be competitive with all other aircraft aside from the raptor and f-35... Basically any other air force aside from the USAF. The UK, France, Europe, Russia and India will all have mostly 4th gen fleets by late this decade and the US too most likely. The j-10b will remain relevant, even after j-20 enters service.
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Exactly. I think the J-10b would be more than a match for 4.5 gen like Typhoon and Su-35BM once the engine problem is solved.
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witchhunting has never been about actually finding the real witch, but just bash whoever looks like one XD
witchhunting has never been about actually finding the real witch, but just bash whoever looks like one XD
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