J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

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Blitzo

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I feel like losing the EODAS is a great mistake. Situational awareness will suffer because of it

I wouldn't call the status on the EO PDS (or as some call it, the EO DAS) on J-20B that quickly.

On J-20AS (twin seater), on the first prototype 2031, they seemed to have an aperture on the dorsal nose in front of the canopy, but none on the sides:
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On the second prototype 2032, they seemed to have apertures on the sides of the nose (behind the radome), but didn't seem to have it in front of the canopy.
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I'm not sure why they would differ between having apertures on some prototypes and not others, but clearly it goes to show that we cannot yet say what the final state of the apertures will be on the final production J-20AS.
And I would say the same principle should apply to J-20B.

Personally, I do not see a reason why they would remove the apertures on the production J-20AS and J-20B.

I do not have a definitive hypothesis for why they would alternate between removing some and having some apertures between different prototypes, but I wonder if it is just because the EO PDS subsystem is sufficiently mature such that installing all of the apertures on each prototype is not worth it.


Time will tell -- but IMO our operating hypothesis should be to wait for what the final production representative fitout for J-20AS and J-20B should be first, given we have evidence that aperture presence has differed between successive prototypes.
 

Deino

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Is this a new image? I thought so far it had only one fitted?
 

ansy1968

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Exactly my fear
Sir maybe we can ask @Blitzo cause it had 13 petals.

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So, we can count new engine's nozzle petals -- looks like max 13. Different to WS-10B TVC which has 15. It's *possible* this is a WS-10 variant with new nozzle... but the last year's insistent rumours of WS-15 testing on J-20 can't be ignored. This may be it folks.

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latenlazy

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Sir maybe we can ask @Blitzo cause it had 13 petals.

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So, we can count new engine's nozzle petals -- looks like max 13. Different to WS-10B TVC which has 15. It's *possible* this is a WS-10 variant with new nozzle... but the last year's insistent rumours of WS-15 testing on J-20 can't be ignored. This may be it folks.

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You misunderstand. We know there’s a J-20 with one TVC nozzle, with an engine that we can’t identify but we think might be the WS-15. But we have yet to see a J-20 with two TVC nozzles installed. The image you shared is almost certainly a ps of the one below.

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minusone

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I think he deliberate PS two ws-15 nozzles, so that yall would think it's fake. The real image as per above, is only fitted with one ws-15.:eek:
 
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