J-20 5th Generation Fighter VII

ZeEa5KPul said:

It could be that all the E-7/F-35 combo provides the USAF is parity. It could even be that the E-7/F-35 combo is still worse than the KJ-500/J-20. All we can conclude is that it's better than E-3/F-35.

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Deino said:

Sorry for the confusion, but if they were seen there, then it does not mean they must be based there and as such could well be from the 9th AB?

My point is, there seems to be some sort of hype recently and even if - as @Bltizo noted - it could be that several units are gaining just a few J-20s instead of a full dadui and will be later filled up, there are at least by my feeling too many units under discussion right now.

As such it could also be an explanation that they are not always from a new unit but from a visit, a detachment of an exercise, ... whatever.

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tphuang said:

I don't think we can conclude KJ-500/J-20 is better than E-3/F-35. USAF gets uncomfortable anytime they think they might not have an advantage. And in this case, I think they have concluded E-3C is not helping them against J-20, but KJ-500 is tangibly helping PLAAF find F-35. They believe E-7 will help them against J-20. There are many other aerial assets like other fighter jets and drones that can affect things also.


I think until we get serial numbers, J-20 sightings could be explained by any number of things. It's reasonable to assume that more units will get J-20s this year. Let's wait for photos.

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tphuang said:

I don't think we can conclude KJ-500/J-20 is better than E-3/F-35. USAF gets uncomfortable anytime they think they might not have an advantage. And in this case, I think they have concluded E-3C is not helping them against J-20, but KJ-500 is tangibly helping PLAAF find F-35. They believe E-7 will help them against J-20. There are many other aerial assets like other fighter jets and drones that can affect things also.

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tphuang said:

I don't think we can conclude KJ-500/J-20 is better than E-3/F-35. USAF gets uncomfortable anytime they think they might not have an advantage. And in this case, I think they have concluded E-3C is not helping them against J-20, but KJ-500 is tangibly helping PLAAF find F-35. They believe E-7 will help them against J-20. There are many other aerial assets like other fighter jets and drones that can affect things also.

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Jason_ said:

J-20, F-35 and F-22 have RAM all over. Only areas that are physically impossible to cover with RAM, like various antenna apertures, are not covered. However, RAM type and thickness are not uniform throughout. Critical areas like wing edges and intakes will be covered with thicker RAM.

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tphuang said:

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I think until we get serial numbers, J-20 sightings could be explained by any number of things. It's reasonable to assume that more units will get J-20s this year. Let's wait for photos.

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Michaelsinodef said:

?? I think it's pretty safe to conclude that KJ-500/J-20 is better than E-3/F-35 unless you miswrote, and meant E-7/F-35.

As for KJ-500/J-20 vs E-7/F-35 will end up? Isn't that a bit hard to say? Or is it generally accepted that E-7 > KJ-500 and F-35 rcs >(as in better) J-20 rcs.

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Deino said:

Guys ... can we leave out any AEW and especially US-Chinese types comparisons in this thread?

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Deino said:

Agreed ... and that's exactly the reason why I am so much obsessed in numbers!

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ZeEa5KPul said:

Aside from this, it also implies that the entire general staff of the US armed forces are pathological liars who regularly tell falsehoods to raise money.

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