Is it possible that with the new domestically build engines that the production rate of J-20 has been increased? (Assuming engines were the bottleneck)This is scaring me. How many WS-10C birds have they actually inducted???
p.s. huitong thinks that the 78031 is actually in Cangzhou. This makes sense since the first black nozzle bird we saw in active service, 78034, was also from Cangzhou. This means that all birds with the 7803x designation use domestic engines.
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That is without question. But even the number of J-20s with Russian engines is formidable. There are at least over 20 with AL-31 variant.
What does it mean for the amount of J-20's in service? Can we estimate a more accurate number now?
There isn't an exact science to this, but based on circumstantial evidence I would say that there should be around 60-80 J-20s already in service including ones in Cangzhou and Dingxin.
I will provide some translation:
They [the new pilots] have 1000 flight hours [and later mentions 100hours on J20].Some nice screen grabs. Does anyone have the video link?
Current priority is developing tactics.
Invite outside factory [to give presentation, also mentioned incorporating AI].
This is scaring me. How many WS-10C birds have they actually inducted???
p.s. huitong thinks that the 78031 is actually in Cangzhou. This makes sense since the first black nozzle bird we saw in active service, 78034, was also from Cangzhou. This means that all birds with the 7803x designation use domestic engines.
Seems to me like just confirmation of what we've long been suspecting imo.
We've known for the last two years or so they've been producing J-20As with WS-10s in increasing numbers, with even some pictures of them as well at the factory suggestive of that.
But we've never been able to identify which units they were at or their unit numbers.
However that was just due to robust PLA opsec, and now that enough time has passed they're letting those aircraft be released in a limited manner.
For me the real mystery is whether they started inducting WS-10 J-20s into the Wanghai Brigade. We know for a fact that the 621xx series of birds are still using the AL-31 variant, but the only 622xx bird -- 62207, has its nozzles strategically obscured in the only footage we have of it.
Be more discerning with what sources you take seriously.
You're relatively new, so fine.
But whenever you read anything about the PLA on the internet -- and indeed, anything on the internet in general -- take five minutes to ask "is this real" and "how real is this" and then do some reading around the subject.
In this case, the original article is from SCMP and the author is Minnie Chan.
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