J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI

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TerraN_EmpirE

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I have a feeling this is supposed to lampoon me.

As of yet no one has added rocket pods to a fifth gen even F35.
Besides why bother?

As time has gone by the primary means of CAS for fighters shifted to guided bombs and missiles. Which wouldn't require any special development.
 

broadsword

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I have a feeling this is supposed to lampoon me.

Wouldn't you want a potpourri of munitions to administer the appropriate level of damage to different types targets?

As of yet no one has added rocket pods to a fifth gen even F35.
Besides why bother?

As time has gone by the primary means of CAS for fighters shifted to guided bombs and missiles. Which wouldn't require any special development.

I think to befit the 5th Generation fighters, instead of the old rocket pods, arming with Advanced precision kill weapon system (APKWS) types makes more sense.
 

siegecrossbow

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I have a feeling this is supposed to lampoon me.

As of yet no one has added rocket pods to a fifth gen even F35.
Besides why bother?

As time has gone by the primary means of CAS for fighters shifted to guided bombs and missiles. Which wouldn't require any special development.

I think plawolf was referring to a popular meme on Chinese military forums that no new fighter has officially entered service with PLAAF until it has fired unguided rockets in a highly publicized exercise.
 

Gloire_bb

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Everyone sees 4 long range air to air missiles. That's fine. But I also see at least 2 air to ground missiles as an option. Or how about antiship misiles.
How are you going to hold them?
There are just this many suspension points inside.
Aircraft is supposed not just to support them, but to be able to freely maneuver with internal payloads. You can't attach new points at will, nor freely swap them. Also, the very same points can't be too small - for they aren't just to hold payload in place, their duty is to safely detach them from the aircraft, even under pressing conditions(negative/positive, off-axis overload).
I really suspect what this was a major reason behind su-57 design solution(and not lack of forum-level physycians in the russian academy of sciences): as flat as it is, whole height of the aircraft body below frames is availible for weapons bay, like in the bombers(just compare su-57 belly with tu-160, the similarity is striking).
J-20/F-22/J-31 have airducts, avionics and fuel over the bays. It doesn't matter for a2a(it is even good, because it's much simpler to use this volume with mraams = possible 6 missile loadouts). Remember the fate of the widow - Nortrop tried to be smart and lost.
This doesn't mean what this is the end. Just what a2g was a secondary concern, not important enough to sacrifice anything else.
 

jobjed

Captain
Reported on PLAAF Breaking News thread, someone stated that J-20 crashed? Can anyone confirm? Rumor perhaps?

A Dingxin pilot with flight qualifications on the J-10C, J-16, and J-20 was killed in an aviation accident on the 9th of November. He has a two year-old son and recently had a much belated marriage ceremony with his wife of four years. That's all we know so far.

I bet it was the J-10C but that's nothing more than a guess. RIP, regardless, to one of the youngest triple-qualified pilots in the PLAAF.
 

localizer

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is j20 mainly for killing high value targets (AEWC/tankers) to damage logistics? then u send in the anti-ship missiles, then war is over?
 
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