J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread VI
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The problem with the Su-57 engines is the bottom, not the rear. The channel produced by the engine pods creates a corner reflector if the Su-57 is ever seen from the bottom, and that seems baked into the Su-57. The Russians, like the Chinese, are willing to sacrifice all-aspect stealth for other design goals, and I agree that the Su-57 is designed for exceptional maneuverability.
The question of the Su-57 ultimately seems to be more a question of droning them; the aircraft is supposedly geared for 11G, moderately beyond what humans can tolerate. The idea of winning out with maneuverability in short-range is possible, but only with a remote pilot or an autonomous combat vehicle.
As for the J-20, the biggest problem with the idea of the J-20 as primarily an interceptor is the weapons bay. Counter-stealth AEW&C can pick up a somewhat messy J-20 at reasonably long ranges, and when that happens, the J-20 needs to be ready to fire missiles. With the weapons bay as it currently stands, it's too small to launch the PLA's current inventory of long-range interception missiles. Perhaps a custom missile could be designed for the bay, trading length for width, but the J-20 as it stands is better suited to countering 4th generation aircraft or 5th generation strike fighters.
IMO, the J-20 is well-designed as an air superiority fighter, but closer to the YF-23's paradigm than the YF-22's. Think of it as a less-stealthy YF-23 with superior instantaneous turn rates.
The question of the Su-57 ultimately seems to be more a question of droning them; the aircraft is supposedly geared for 11G, moderately beyond what humans can tolerate. The idea of winning out with maneuverability in short-range is possible, but only with a remote pilot or an autonomous combat vehicle.
As for the J-20, the biggest problem with the idea of the J-20 as primarily an interceptor is the weapons bay. Counter-stealth AEW&C can pick up a somewhat messy J-20 at reasonably long ranges, and when that happens, the J-20 needs to be ready to fire missiles. With the weapons bay as it currently stands, it's too small to launch the PLA's current inventory of long-range interception missiles. Perhaps a custom missile could be designed for the bay, trading length for width, but the J-20 as it stands is better suited to countering 4th generation aircraft or 5th generation strike fighters.
IMO, the J-20 is well-designed as an air superiority fighter, but closer to the YF-23's paradigm than the YF-22's. Think of it as a less-stealthy YF-23 with superior instantaneous turn rates.
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Equation
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Damn that Yang Wei is good! He is one of the many Chinese pioneers for advanced aviation.
You are reposting the same article we saw a couple of weeks ago.
As well he should be,,,, does anyone else think this may be a bad development for the FC-31??? I fully approve of his promotion, but will he continue to allow the FC-31 to be fully developed??
I'm not saying it is a bad development, and I like most here have great confidence in Yang Wei, though I will always remain a "devotee" of Dr. Song, as I believe Yang Wei is as well?
SinoSoldier
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That was a CG photo that first came out six or seven years ago. I wouldn't read too much into it since it might've been a lazy intern who put it up.
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