J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread V

[Deino]

Is what is being suggested that the J-20 is now on D-20s?

I think it's simply a typo: The author means "Today, at least thirteen J-20 have already flown including five of series (or pre-series).

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for the mass production of this aircraft, which made

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day of the 2016 Zhuhai Air Show."

Deino

 

[Blitzo]

Is what is being suggested that the J-20 is now on D-20s?

Just realized you were talking about Henri K's write up which mentions "D-20" rather than talking about b787's post and having it be a typo from "D-30".
So "D-20" is obviously it's a mistake from the translation programme... come on that should be even more obvious...

 

[SinoSoldier]

Is what is being suggested that the J-20 is now on D-20s?

It means that, instead of a 20-30mm cannon, the J-20 is now armed with an internal D-20 howitzer.



No wonder we couldn't find a gun compartment.

 

[Equation]

Looks like LRIP is good to go!

First Chinese J-20 stealth fighter jet enters service
March 10, 2017

China has announced that their first fifth-generation J-20 fighter jet has entered active service

(BEIJING, CHINA) Months after unveiling its first fifth-generation J-20 fighter jet, China’s People’s Liberation Army announced that the advanced aircraft has entered service. The jet is meant to counter the US and its regional allies in a potential battle for air superiority.

The brief announcement on Friday made on state broadcaster CCTV’s military and agricultural affairs channel said the J-20 had entered service in the People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF). The report did not provide further details.

The announcement did not come as a big surprise; in November, the Chinese military demonstrated two J-20s during a pre-announced brief fly-past at the Zhuhai Air Show in Guangdong province, signaling that the aircraft was about to enter service.

The development of the Chengdu J-20 began in the late 1990s, with the first prototype taking flight in January 2011. Eight prototypes have been built so far, with two being LRIP, or low rate initial production – an indicator that the aircraft design was generally fixed. The J-20 is yet to receive its designated engine, the Xian WS-15, but has been reportedly tested with China’s advanced PL-15 and PL-10 air-to-air missiles.

Beijing has managed to develop an advanced aircraft, which is touted as a weapon meant to counter US F-22 and F-35 fighters, and is surprisingly fast, industry experts say.

The J-20 is a giant leap for the PLAAF both capability-wise and technology-wise. Did anyone of us expect a Chinese stealth fighter to be operational before 2020 when asked in, let’s say, 2010?” aviation journalist

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for the Aviationist website at the time the J-20 was first demonstrated.

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[FORBIN]

Deino please

Since the first delivery of three J-20s in serial version to the Chinese Air Force three months ago
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According to some local sources, about forty of this Chinese Very Low Observable (VLO) fighter should be produced before 2020
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So about 10 -15 year reasonable number, rate already mentionned here, in this case the 1st Rgt can receive the first ones this year, a complement next year and full in 2019, an idea and the 5 are based where ?

Edit : now to Huitong 5 serie J-20s n° 78271 - 78275.

 

[Deino]

Deino please



So about 10 -15 year reasonable number, rate already mentionned here, in this case the 1st Rgt can receive the first ones this year, a complement next year and full in 2019, an idea and the 5 are based where ?

Edit : now to Huitong 5 serie J-20s n° 78271 - 78275.

I'm almost sure they are based at the FTTC base at Dingxin AB ... esp. since 176th Brigade fits perfectly.





Concerning the number of aircraft - 10-15 per year - I'm still a bit sceptical but it is surely possible.

However what makes me suspicious or what surprises me is the increasing number of reports in the "typical media"

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China’s J-20 stealth fighter joins the People’s Liberation Army air force

State media highlights nation’s most advanced stealth fighter coming into operation

China’s latest stealth fighter, the J-20, is serving in the People’s Liberation Army air force, according to state media.

Military insiders said the appearance of J-20s in the air force was meant as a warning to Japan and South Korea, which are expected to buy US F-35 stealth fighters now that China has equally advanced warplanes.

Video footage aired by CCTV yesterday showed J-20 fighters alongside PLA Y-20 transport planes and H-6K bombers. The broadcast did not say how many J-20s were operational.

The report said the new aircraft had joined joint drills with troops, rocket forces and the navy.

A source close to the PLA said the J-20s were all equipped with home-made WS-15 engines, but because the engine had not entered mass production, only a few J-20s were available for service.

“There are still a series of technical problems that need to be tackled [on the J-20], including the reliability of its WS-15 engines, [and the plane’s] control system, stealth coat and hull materials and infrared sensor,” said the source, who requested anonymity.

But with the US deploying a batch of F-35s in Japan in January, and South Korea planning to have 40 F-35s in 2018, “it’s urgent for China to show off its achievements as soon as possible”, the source said, adding that more J-20s would join the PLA this year.

Chinese military websites showed pictures last December of J-20s with serial numbers indicating that at least three types of the stealth jets had joined the air force since last year.

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[FORBIN]

I'm almost sure they are based at the FTTC base at Dingxin AB ... esp. since 176th Brigade fits perfectly.


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Concerning the number of aircraft - 10-15 per year - I'm still a bit sceptical but it is surely possible.

However what makes me suspicious or what surprises me is the increasing number of reports in the "typical media"

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SK AF don't have 40 F-35A for 2020 surely not 1st Sqn which replace F-4E to Cheongju not ready before about 2021. Japanese AF more fast first yet delivered 1st Sqn for 2019/20.

For me they don't replace one by one older the J-20 is much more expensive saying about 3 for 4 and fighters-bombers production is stable then possible Rgts stand down J-7s, Q-5s ofc.

Also Henri K have say J-10 production have decrease possible in relation with J-20.

For the rest, each AF have its procedures, regulations for what US Air Services name IOC reports are not clear, enough logic ! but not completely sure J-20 get it now.

 

[Air Force Brat]

Deino please



So about 10 -15 year reasonable number, rate already mentionned here, in this case the 1st Rgt can receive the first ones this year, a complement next year and full in 2019, an idea and the 5 are based where ?

Edit : now to Huitong 5 serie J-20s n° 78271 - 78275.

at present is does not appear that 10 to 15 is likely to happen anytime soon? 4-8 is still questionable as it appears so far that 4-6 is more likely in the short term..

 

[Air Force Brat]

I'm almost sure they are based at the FTTC base at Dingxin AB ... esp. since 176th Brigade fits perfectly.


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Concerning the number of aircraft - 10-15 per year - I'm still a bit sceptical but it is surely possible.

However what makes me suspicious or what surprises me is the increasing number of reports in the "typical media"

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So does anyone have any idea what we are talking about with the FCS "issues", no doubt the J-20s FCS is complex,,,, even the F-35's FCS continues to be "tweaked" which might be misinterpreted by the layman as "issues"?

 

[Inst]

So why is the claim that the J-20 is already on WS-15? Or is the SCMP just full of shit?