I'm not sure if you're pointing at the black bar or the band behind it. As I noted earlier though, the black bar is not where the nozzle ends. If you look very closely there's another line behind that.
J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)
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I'm not sure if you're pointing at the black bar or the band behind it. As I noted earlier though, the black bar is not where the nozzle ends. If you look very closely there's another line behind that.
a stupid question:
how plausible is assumption that the right engine IS a different engine, and they seem to keep the nozzles constantly more opened than ones on left engine because its natural thrust is higher than one on the left. So the nozzle setting, contributing to overall thrust, is different, because left engine is working at, say, 90% of its max thrust and right engine at, say, 70% of its thrust to achieve the same nominal thrust?
how plausible is assumption that the right engine IS a different engine, and they seem to keep the nozzles constantly more opened than ones on left engine because its natural thrust is higher than one on the left. So the nozzle setting, contributing to overall thrust, is different, because left engine is working at, say, 90% of its max thrust and right engine at, say, 70% of its thrust to achieve the same nominal thrust?
Quickie
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I was referring to the band, which is fixed and immovable, and which is separate from the petals. From the picture, the bands can be seen to be different length between the 2 nozzles, and so is the petals.
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I suspect most of the thrust is coming from the right engine. The left engine seems to be at its minimal thrust because of lack of heat wave directly behind it. See post #3717.
by78
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The starboard engine does appear different, or at least the nozzle does. Assuming both nozzles are fully extended, the starboard nozzle seems a tad bigger and longer.
The difference is small, and it could be due to optical illusions or angle or whatever, but it's there.
The difference is small, and it could be due to optical illusions or angle or whatever, but it's there.
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manqiangrexue
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What if... they're testing the flight characteristics of the J-20 during a simulated single engine failure...
Hell, what if it was an actual single engine failure and the pilot was able to land it, avoiding a crash?! LOL
When the J-20 came out I remember a lot of Western journalists mocking this plane and China for designing a 'stealth' plane using 'unstealthy' canards. The condescension and ridicule was massive. But now that Boeing has come out with a SIXTH generation stealth design using canards, I wonder if these same 'journalists' will start mocking the F/A-XX as well. My guess is no, so what's the difference? Western canards are made of adamantium? /stupid
He probably just added a little power to arrest a "sink", you don't need a lot of thrust, in fact all you want to do is be able to flare the aircraft properly, and that takes a little lift, particularly with an aircraft with an aft delta, or the left engine is "lagging" slightly on the "throttle up", it could be ex-aserbated by the low power setting, or he could be spooling only ONE engine up???? Neither is a problem or abnormal, if he had lost an engine they would roll the fire-trucks and emergency vehicles, No Doubt about that.... So guys I don't care if you're off topic, but this is a non-issue, I don't even care if you're making pertinent observations, but these engines are still both AL-31s, really they are, some of our senior posters will likely know when/if they begin test flying different engines, and share that here.
Of course they will since this is a "mock-up",,,,, this Boeing is likely much more "stealthy than the J-20, likely than the F-22, but there is NO guarantee that this will be our initial sixth gen, in fact a smart guy with a C note would bet a fan boy that it won't be!
You are trying to imply that Boeing is wrong in its decision to consider canards, so that it is possible Western journalists are not going to become utterly hypocritical when this thing rolls out? I think that's what you're saying...
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