J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

[kyanges]

I pointed this out several posts ago, but somebody dismissed it as canard deflection angle.

Oh, haha, that was me. I thought you were referring to the gap on the back end of the canards since the image in that post didn't show this particular gap at all.

Actually, now that I understand this is what you're referring to, I'm confused. Doesn't a gap like that actually make the canard blend with the front of the fuselage even worse? Now there's this big gap between the canard and the body.

 

[Blitzo]

Give me a break, talk about accusing without proof.
Read my last post I stated the branches were fake and have not mentioned anything about the plane itself. If you look closely, you'll find a second watermark in the center of the photo with another on the bottom left hand side suggesting it is a secondary usage.

Going back to that, I'm still not sure what you're saying.

Are you thinking the branches in that photo are PSed? Or did you mistake the watermark for part of the branches?

And yes, there is a watermark, so what? Many sites automatically add a watermark to photos that are uploaded, or some photographers might add it themselves.

 

[Air Force Brat]

I actually compared the canard size with a similar shot from 2001. It didn't increase that much, if at all. I think the reason that the canards look so big is because before this photo, we didn't ave a shot of J-20's canards deflected at near 90 degree angle.

I absolutely agree, I didn't mean to imply that they were larger, just that as a lift producing control service, they add to the total lift, and load carrying ability, aerodynamically balancing the aircraft, this airplane does fly very well, I love the look with the outside edges contrasting to the inner surface, and of course I do like the clipped tipps. This girl has been worth the wait, and I'm sure that she is much closer to her final form, I would love to see some air to air work, and I'm sure we will find she is very photogenic, with the gear up and all clean and slik...zoom, zoom.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Oh, haha, that was me. I thought you were referring to the gap on the back end of the canards since the image in that post didn't show this particular gap at all.

Actually, now that I understand this is what you're referring to, I'm confused. Doesn't a gap like that actually make the canard blend with the front of the fuselage even worse? Now there's this big gap between the canard and the body.

Putting the photo here to better illustrate my point. The slot they cut actually helps the canard to integrate with the curve of the intake. I believe that the original canard on 2001 didn't take that into account, so there was a gap between the canard and the intake.

 

[ludasmatyi]

Does anyone noticed the main weapon bay on 2011 is longer then the previous two prototypes?

 

[Air Force Brat]

Give me a break, talk about accusing without proof.
Read my last post I stated the branches were fake and have not mentioned anything about the plane itself. If you look closely, you'll find a second watermark in the center of the photo with another on the bottom left hand side suggesting it is a secondary usage.
For you information I have never suggested that this prototype plane does not exist. I do reserve some doubts on how the whole program is progressing especially concerning the indigenous engine which is said to be developed but that is another story altogether.
So please keep your speculations about fellow members to yourself.

I agree gents, SB may voice opinions on another "forum" that Sino Defense would not allow, sometime Sino D strikes me as a "guided discussion" rather than a forum, I feel the same way about the Smith and Wesson forum, I would prefer to be allowed to speak more of what is on my mind, and have the mods take a more up front role, editing posts that are over the line, but Sino Defense "works" for us all. I'm glad Sam is here, while I'm not sure about the sticks, lots of the pix he calls wonky, are "wonky" in my mind before he says anything. "ALL" of us are very nationalistic, and its easy to tell where each of us are coming from, I don't pretend to be objective, and I try read each post in the threads I follow with a mind of where the OP is coming from??? I have been a little hard on a couple of posters I felt where being unkind, or deliberately miss-representing the truth.

All that being said, I hope we can treat one another with respect, this is my favorite "waterin hole", and I find a great deal of enjoyment in each of your personal friendship, and I would love nothing more that to sit down and enjoy a meal with each of my "brothers" here on Sino Defense. I'm happy for each of you as the J-20 2011 has flown, lets not spoil our finest hour with "less than our best"... so I appreciate Sam trying to explain his position........

 

[AssassinsMace]

It's odd to equate shadowing of trees having to do with how the J-20 is progressing. Guess who's making general assumptions on the J-20 program based on something on a picture that has nothing to do with the J-20? Why mention it at all? Unless he's making a general accusation that one fake pic according to him equals to a general fraud? And why would one make that charge if it weren't about making a general statement about an entire group of people?

 

[tony0989]

It's odd to equate shadowing of trees having to do with how the J-20 is progressing. Guess who's making general assumptions on the J-20 program based on something on a picture that has nothing to do with the J-20? Why mention it at all? Unless he's making a general accusation that one fake pic according to him equals to a general fraud? And why would one make that charge if it weren't about making a general statement about an entire group of people?

he has a great potential to be a PhD student, very skeptical and very interested in 2011.

 

[Equation]

It's odd to equate shadowing of trees having to do with how the J-20 is progressing. Guess who's making general assumptions on the J-20 program based on something on a picture that has nothing to do with the J-20? Why mention it at all? Unless he's making a general accusation that one fake pic according to him equals to a general fraud? And why would one make that charge if it weren't about making a general statement about an entire group of people?

I agreed with AsssassinsMace here, we were all here discussing the new pics regarding the new J-20 prototype until SB suddenly came out about one pic regarding tree branches? C'mon if that's not derailing the discussion or even hate baiting than I don't know what is?

 

[by78]

Three more...

I upped the exposure on the first one to reveal more details (the belly bay does look a tad longer perhaps):

P.S. The best defense against internet trolls is to ignore them.