J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

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Air Force Brat

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Not sure if this is from today's flight. Canards look a little big.

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They are huge, pilot is giving the wall climbers a "photo-op", this is the position the canards would be in to recover/hover in very high alpha flight, this is one of the real money shots of the day, we are also able to see the clipped tips. I would remind every body that the canard contribute "positively" to the total lift of the aircraft, they along with the forward fuselage strakes contribute to a huge surplus of lift that is necessary to "horse" this gal around at "very low airspeeds and in a very high alpha, Angle of Attack. Both of these factors "should" minimize "mach tuck", an aerodynamic phenomena that pitches the nose down as you are "going" supersonic, I would also remind that as you increase speed, there is less and less need for large pitch trim changes, and you want to transition from relaxed stability for "maneuvering" to more stable as the speed increases, likely one of the reasons the "tail stings" have been lengthened and "cleaned up', I am surely the aerodynamic "cleanup" of the lerx and intakes, promotes a much "smoother flow of air into and around the forward fuse/wing juncture, making for less "buffet" as you make the many transitions through each speed range, optimizing the good flying qualities of the J-20.
 

SamuraiBlue

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Might as well post some more. It's a special occasion after all ;)


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The shadow of the branches are false although I do not understand why they would place them there.
 

siegecrossbow

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They are huge, pilot is giving the wall climbers a "photo-op", this is the position the canards would be in to recover/hover in very high alpha flight, this is one of the real money shots of the day, we are also able to see the clipped tips. I would remind every body that the canard contribute "positively" to the total lift of the aircraft, they along with the forward fuselage strakes contribute to a huge surplus of lift that is necessary to "horse" this gal around at "very low airspeeds and in a very high alpha, Angle of Attack. Both of these factors "should" minimize "mach tuck", an aerodynamic phenomena that pitches the nose down as you are "going" supersonic, I would also remind that as you increase speed, there is less and less need for large pitch trim changes, and you want to transition from relaxed stability for "maneuvering" to more stable as the speed increases, likely one of the reasons the "tail stings" have been lengthened and "cleaned up', I am surely the aerodynamic "cleanup" of the lerx and intakes, promotes a much "smoother flow of air into and around the forward fuse/wing juncture, making for less "buffet" as you make the many transitions through each speed range, optimizing the good flying qualities of the J-20.

I actually compared the canard size with a similar shot from 2001. It didn't increase that much, if at all. I think the reason that the canards look so big is because before this photo, we didn't ave a shot of J-20's canards deflected at near 90 degree angle.
 

Equation

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IMO those dirt mound and sand bags are there before in preparation for any torrential rain that might be flooding the area. Now we can assume the "wall climbers" could move a pile of dirt mound higher to see over the wall is not far fetch.:eek:
 

Jeff Head

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I'm lovin' it. '

Here's four of the first pictures so far that I love the most:


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Enjoy Deino!

PS...still waiting for that HD video of the taxi, take-off, flight, and landing!
 

latenlazy

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I actually compared the canard size with a similar shot from 2001. It didn't increase that much, if at all. I think the reason that the canards look so big is because before this photo, we didn't ave a shot of J-20's canards deflected at near 90 degree angle.
Or perspective.

Other changes I noticed:

1) the front of the canard seems to integrate with the forward fuselage better.
2) the "ditch" between the two engines appear wider and deeper.

Overall, am I the only one who thinks that the New LERX will generate weaker vortices? They made it straighter and narrower, almost like a proto-compound delta wing. Also, the LEX in front of the canard has been removed.

Maybe that's why the top of the intake is sloped. That slope (and the conspicuous disappearance of the LERXes in front of the canards, sorry I keep harping about that) makes it hard to predict how flow changes downstream just by looking...
 
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