J-20 5th Gen Fighter Thread IV (Closed to posting)

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Deino

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Good argument !

IMO the best pro-real point is that all details look real but not as overdone as most PS/CG-artists would have done the job. I simply think it is in fact a real image but the resolution was downgraded whe theoriginal first posted resized it to publish it in whatever forum.

As such give us PLEASE the full size high resolution original ...

Deino
 

latenlazy

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Is it?

With any decent graphics program like Photo Shop, you could easily select the grass itself and do color/contrast/illumination/mid-tones/hue/, etc. changes to that area to change the color of the grass so that what once was green, for example, would appear yellow...or even brown.

I personally believe the blossoms themselves, and the very sharp edges of the top of the intake, without any shimmer when compared to the other edges, give this away. At least IMHO.

But, as Deino said, all we can do is wait and see. At some point they will roll this aircraft out and video tape/photo it as it goes through its preflight...and then as it takes to the air for the first time.
There's also a tree with no leaves. At the very least I don't think the surroundings have been psed. It seems to the the right season.
 

by78

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I'm conflicted. Technical details check out, but some lines and features look too sharp and well defined compared to the rest of the photo, IMHO.

Then again, they could have been anti-aliasing artifacts. It's possible someone touched up a genuine photo of 2011 to make it more presentable.

Note the lights above front landing gear: they are green and magenta. I don't recall seeing these in any 2011 photos (however blurry they are), and they are not on 2001/02.

If indeed this is a PS job, someone sure took very detailed notes of 2011's physical features.
 
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Jeff Head

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To me the 'wonky' wheel adds to the authenticity. The bird is probably in mid-turn while taxiing when the photo was taken which is why you see the front gear turned like that. If I'm a PSer the last thing I want to do is to purposely make the wheel look like that and like some have said I would have added some color (greenish/orange hue) to the EOTS.

From my experience a 'bad' picture can also mean it's real as oppose to just a bad artist. LOL
Well, here ya go.


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Just a few refinements on that J-20 aircraft three pic we have been talking about.
 
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by78

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If it's PSed, then someone has gone through the trouble of altering the rear landing gear struts and the wing-fuselage joint (circled). Also note, the right wing-fuselage joint appears different from the one on the left, with the latter appearing 'truncated'. By the way, I think the left joint (circled) looks PSed/fake.

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Here are some high-rez photos of 2001 and 2002 for reference. You can clearly see that their rear landing gear assemblies differ from what's portrayed in the above photo.

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chuck731

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The putative photo of 2011 shows the aircraft as seen from a position slightly to the right. This likely accounts for the asymmetrical appearance of the wing roots. The photo of the 2002 shows the aircraft as seen from head on. Hence the wing roots appears identical. Comparing the wing roots on the right hand sides of the two photograph suggests the wing roots have not really changed. The difference in appearance of the wing roots on the left of the two photograph seems different mainly because of slight difference in angle of view.
 

by78

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The putative photo of 2011 shows the aircraft as seen from a position slightly to the right. This likely accounts for the asymmetrical appearance of the wing roots. The photo of the 2002 shows the aircraft as seen from head on. Hence the wing roots appears identical. Comparing the wing roots on the right hand sides of the two photograph suggests the wing roots have not really changed. The difference in appearance of the wing roots on the left of the two photograph seems different mainly because of slight difference in angle of view.

But that doesn't account for the apparent increase in size of the wing-fuselage joint on 2011. I'm referring to the diamond-shaped bumps.
 

Dizasta1

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Also note, the right wing-fuselage joint appears different from the one on the left, with the latter appearing 'truncated'.

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Well if you look at the F-35 Lightning, it's left side also looks different from its right. It isn't unusual for the J-20 to have the same. Maybe its sensors of some sort, or perhaps a redesign for a cannon to be incorporated it in the near future.

A look at the F-35 for reference:
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