J-10 Thread IV

[yugocrosrb95]

Ha. Rafale is indeed ridiculous in its cost, and it probably hurts a bit more b/c France isn't a full provider of top-line western warfighting package.
France was always the maveric, providing affordable, package without unnecessary strings attached. Now it's still expensive, still provides usual french solution(which in the past was done by mirages), just for triple the price.

But J-10 isn't the system, it's the shooter. There are AEW, ELINT, there is ground data fusion and GCI command infrastructure, there's SAM network of networks, and gun batteries covering them...

I would not say necessarily that there are no strings attached, my impression is purchase of Rafale's is more to gain favor with France and for example Croatia after singing to buy refurbished Rafale's that then finally we were allowed in Schengen zone. Another is I would not be surprised if Serbia bought brand new Rafale's to stave off any sanctions related to Russia be it them placing on them or getting sanctioned for trading with Russia with certain goods and services. Basically a bribe United Nations Security Council core member, this being France.

 

[Nomi007]

Indians recovered some PL-15E missiles, which type of data they can extract and will it helpful for Indians and western powers.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Indians recovered some PL-15E missiles, which type of data they can extract and will it helpful for Indians and western powers.

As the Chinese liberals used to say — “just because you can copy the shell doesn’t mean you can copy the secret ingredient within”.

 

[dingyibvs]

Correct. They are offering a system. The J-10CE/PL-15E is shorthand for that system.

And it will be cheaper for that proven system (proven against the West) than anything the West has to offer and without the restrictions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1920389571269042425

Didn't know J-10AS was also there.

 

[GiantPanda]

Didn't know J-10AS was also there.

Not only there but the hosts were given a test drive on it:



We had a full system for 18 days in Egypt:

J-10Cs, J-10AS with the KJ-500 AEW.

Supported by Y-20s with a SAR Z-20K that can be nicely folded and transported in a Y-20.

Top it off by a YY-20 refueler that an Egyptian MiG-29 actually took fuel from.

 

[no_name]

Indians recovered some PL-15E missiles, which type of data they can extract and will it helpful for Indians and western powers.

It may help a lot. I suggest they send some more planes to recover some more PL-15E parts.



F-22: "My first time is with a blow-up doll, how was yours"

J-10CE: "I lost mine to 3 French chicks"

F-22: ".........."

J-10CE: "...And two Russian MILFS"

F-22: "...GOD DAMN!"

 

[cxdfvzsa123]

Raw footage of the J-10 test flight

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[siegecrossbow]

It may help a lot. I suggest they send some more planes to recover some more PL-15E parts.



F-22: "My first time is with a blow-up doll, how was yours"

J-10CE: "I lost mine to 3 French chicks"

F-22: ".........."

J-10CE: "...And two Russian MILFS"

F-22: "...GOD DAMN!"

J-10C’s first time is also with a blowup doll.

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J-10C’s first kill: a suspicious surveillance balloon. Kill achieved via PL-10.

 

[LCR34]

It was rumoured that some J10B is being used for SEAD mission akin to wild weasel squadron. Any concrete proof on that?

 

[GiantPanda]

It may help a lot. I suggest they send some more planes to recover some more PL-15E parts.



F-22: "My first time is with a blow-up doll, how was yours"

J-10CE: "I lost mine to 3 French chicks"

F-22: ".........."

J-10CE: "...And two Russian MILFS"

F-22: "...GOD DAMN!"

Yes, the Flanker is a fucking gorgeous MILF.