J-10 Thread IV

[by78]

J-10CE's AESA radar.

 

[by78]

A J-10CE with CM-400AKG under its wing.

 

[by78]

Better images of that J-10CE on static display.

 

[TheFuture_NoMore]

It is curious whether the triple mount can also carry the PL-15, which should not be a problem in terms of weight.

Also - can the chin points also carry BVR missiles? Clearance does not seem to be an issue, or length. The new PL15E's with foldable wings open up some new options interms of mount points, and triple mount launchers for PL15E's.

Having this flexibility opens up lots of choices of other types of weapons that can be carried.

 

[Blitzo]

Also - can the chin points also carry BVR missiles? Clearance does not seem to be an issue, or length. The new PL15E's with foldable wings open up some new options interms of mount points, and triple mount launchers for PL15E's.

Having this flexibility opens up lots of choices of other types of weapons that can be carried.

The chin mounts, as in the ventral fuselage mounts (where we've seen the dual offset rack with PL-12s) or the forward chin mounts below the air intake?

If you mean the former, I'm sure they can carry PL-15s, including regular PL-15s. If you mean the latter -- I doubt it, primarily due to longitudinal clearance issues.

It is curious whether the triple mount can also carry the PL-15, which should not be a problem in terms of weight.

Let's not get too greedy.

It is already rather exceptional that they are able to use the central fuselage station to carry two BVRAAMs.

 

[F=XX Corsair]

The chin mounts, as in the ventral fuselage mounts (where we've seen the dual offset rack with PL-12s) or the forward chin mounts below the air intake?

If you mean the former, I'm sure they can carry PL-15s, including regular PL-15s. If you mean the latter -- I doubt it, primarily due to longitudinal clearance issues.



Let's not get too greedy.

It is already rather exceptional that they are able to use the central fuselage station to carry two BVRAAMs.

6X PL-15 + 2X PL-10 is more than sufficient loadout for a fighter of its size, I see no need to make it a try hard BVRAAM Missile truck.

 

[Rina]

6X PL-15 + 2X PL-10 is more than sufficient loadout for a fighter of its size, I see no need to make it a try hard BVRAAM Missile truck.

In Warthunder:
More! More missile! Don't to take any fuel tank!

 

[TheFuture_NoMore]

6X PL-15 + 2X PL-10 is more than sufficient loadout for a fighter of its size, I see no need to make it a try hard BVRAAM Missile truck.

Look at this - the F15E which is a beast when it comes to AAM capacity, ran out during a mission :

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Drones change the equation and require the need for more AAMs to counter them ( and cheaper AAMs at that too that dont need 60g turning capability etc ).

 

[Wrought]

Hester dropped altitude and speed to approach the low and slow-flying drone. Though Coffey and Hester could barely see it, they unleashed a volley from the Strike Eagle’s 20mm Gatling Gun, which can fire upwards of 6,000 rounds per minute.

Despite the rapid rate of fire, the Gatling gun missed the drone,

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“You feel the terrain rush, you feel yourself getting closer and closer to the ground,” Coffey told CNN. “The risk was just too high to try again.”

As we have discussed multiple times in the past, firing a fighter’s gun against a small, low, and slow moving target is far more dangerous than many realize. The speed and engagement dynamics involved can result in controlled flight into the ground below as well as ramming into the very object you are trying to shoot down.

Honestly, I question the wisdom of tasking high-altitude supersonic fighters like the F-15 against such targets. Now obviously the US was using whatever it had available, but Israel has found good results with Apaches for anti-drone work. Depending on the target and its sophistication, you'd want a variety of platforms to respond optimally. In any case, seems like there's still a lot of room to try various solutions.

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[lcloo]

Look at this - the F15E which is a beast when it comes to AAM capacity, ran out during a mission :

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Drones change the equation and require the need for more AAMs to counter them ( and cheaper AAMs at that too that dont need 60g turning capability etc ).

Fast jets are not ideal against small slow moving drones because of the speed of the jets and the maximum number of rather expensive aam that the fighter jet can carry.

Rather sub-sonic trainer jets (K-8, JL9, JL-10, FTC-2000G, hawk, alpha jet) or fast turbo-prop aircraft (eg Super Tucano) equiped with smaller calibre (eg. 12.7 mm) machine guns loaded with hundreds to thousands of bullets, and a lot of short range micro missiles (may be 12 or 24 or 36 missiles depends on aircraft payload capacity).

Incidentally, the Jetank just appeared in Zhuhai should be able to carry alot of anti-drone drones.