J-10 Thread IV

[Viperzero]

I remember this, damn I'm getting old. My uncle is in two of those photos, both from the back...hehehe. He was the lead engineer for one of J10's critical areas.

By any chance does he know anything about the 1991 J-10?

 

[TheFuture_NoMore]

A Pakistani J-10CE.

Not sure if the J10CE has enough hardpoints or payload capability to qualify as "omni-role" when compared to the Rafale/Typhoon ?

It is also interesting that the fuel tanks are permanently attached to the PAF J10CE ... do think i have seen a configuration without the fuel tanks yet.

Also PAF operates the watered down PL15E variant of the PL15 - so question mark of how it benchmarks against the Meteor in both range, and NEZ. It is also unknow if the J10CE can provide midcourse guidance to a launched PL15E ( or if PL15E can receive updates ).

Alot of unknowns of how PAF J10CE's compare with PLAAF J10C's.

Mean looking paint job - looks ready for business.

 

[Deino]

By any chance does he know anything about the 1991 J-10?

The best I have is this development chart ...

 

[siegecrossbow]

By any chance does he know anything about the 1991 J-10?

That’s not even a real plane. It is an all metal model before the design was frozen. My guess would be that it is gathering dust in storage today if it is lucky.

 

[LCR34]

The best I have is this development chart ...

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If someone told me the 4th one from top is Lavi i would have believed.

 

[zavve]

Also PAF operates the watered down PL15E variant of the PL15 - so question mark of how it benchmarks against the Meteor in both range, and NEZ.

In terms of NEZ, Meteor should be superior merely due to having a ramjet instead of a rocket motor. No idea how PL15E differs from the PLAAF PL15, maybe @Deino knows more?

 

[Viperzero]

That’s not even a real plane. It is an all metal model before the design was frozen. My guess would be that it is gathering dust in storage today if it is lucky.

A somewhat recent picture (note the J-10s model in the back) I had to be somewhere.


Anyway
J-10A hud

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J-10c hud

both are very similar to the JF-17 hud

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J-10 fighting flankers in DACT

 

[PiSigma]

The best I have is this development chart ...

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The development chart is a lot longer than this. This is after they set on the design. Original j10 design they didn't even decide on canards.

 

[Deino]

The development chart is a lot longer than this. This is after they set on the design. Original j10 design they didn't even decide on canards.

But wasn't this part of the J-10's history made under the J-9-designation?

 

[PiSigma]

But wasn't this part of the J-10's history made under the J-9-designation?

J9 was a separate project, the design specs were different. J10 they had to start from scratch but did take lessons learned from J9. Reevaluation of canards was first step. A normal delta wing design like Tejas was considered and rejected fairly early (couldn't meet requirements).