J-10 Thread IV

[HeroOftheFerelden]

PLAAF 130th Brigade under STC receiving second hand J-10Cs, replacing their J-10As

Possible No.03


130th Brigade badge on the glove


Taxing out from newly built shelters at Luliang AB


Early batch J-10C with AL-31F engine, most likely from the 5th Brigade


For reference

 

[siegecrossbow]

PLAAF 130th Brigade under STC receiving second hand J-10Cs, replacing their J-10As

Possible No.03
View attachment 97176

130th Brigade badge on the glove
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Taxing out from newly built shelters at Luliang AB
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Early batch J-10C with AL-31F engine, most likely from the 5th Brigade
View attachment 97178

For reference
View attachment 97180

Makes sense since they probably want to standardize engine type for maintenance purposes.

 

[Deino]

PLAAF 130th Brigade under STC receiving second hand J-10Cs, replacing their J-10As

Possible No.03
View attachment 97176

130th Brigade badge on the glove
View attachment 97177

Taxing out from newly built shelters at Luliang AB
View attachment 97179

Early batch J-10C with AL-31F engine, most likely from the 5th Brigade
View attachment 97178

For reference
View attachment 97180

I am more and more deeply impressed by your knowledge and even more your eyesight!!

To identify this dot of blue/red as the 130th Air Brigades unit badge is simply impressive.

Hats off!

 

[texx1]

PLA old habits die hard

J10s exercise with rocket pods and unguided bombs

 

[minime]

PLA old habits die hard

Sir, the ammunitions are about to expire.
OK, let's use it in the next training.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I feel that unguided munitions are getting too much of a bad rap following the Ukraine conflict.

This is a form of rusty beach obstruction commonly used for shore defense in Taiwan. Much of the infrastructure has been built at a very cheap price several decades ago. Are you going to waste precious guided munitions against them, risk losing men who perform beach demolition, or will you use fast jets to blow holes in them after air defense has been reasonably suppressed?

Ground straffing is also a rudimentary skill that teaches pilots precision low altitude flying. It may look easy and unsophisticated, but it isn't. There is a reason why RuAF during the early 90s suspended it altogether, and it has to do with pilot competency.

 

[texx1]

Sir, the ammunitions are about to expire.
OK, let's use it in the next training.

I think some early runs of first gen guided bombs like JG500/LT 2 (production started in 2006) are probably approaching their expiration day. PLA could publish more images of jets dropping those for better PR.

 

[drowingfish]

I feel that unguided munitions are getting too much of a bad rap following the Ukraine conflict.

This is a form of rusty beach obstruction commonly used for shore defense in Taiwan. Much of the infrastructure has been built at a very cheap price several decades ago. Are you going to waste precious guided munitions against them, risk losing men who perform beach demolition, or will you use fast jets to blow holes in them after air defense has been reasonably suppressed?

Ground straffing is also a rudimentary skill that teaches pilots precision low altitude flying. It may look easy and unsophisticated, but it isn't. There is a reason why RuAF during the early 90s suspended it altogether, and it has to do with pilot competency.

to deal with these obstacles will require engineers. i dont know how effective dumb bombs will be on these things if the goal is to bomb a path. even if tactical situation requires bombs to be used, for a mission as critical as clearing a beach it still makes sense to use smart bombs to ensure mission success. dumb bombs can be used on clusters of enemy behind the beach.

 

[siegecrossbow]

to deal with these obstacles will require engineers. i dont know how effective dumb bombs will be on these things if the goal is to bomb a path. even if tactical situation requires bombs to be used, for a mission as critical as clearing a beach it still makes sense to use smart bombs to ensure mission success. dumb bombs can be used on clusters of enemy behind the beach.

Then that’s a purpose for dumb bombs. My point is that not everything requires smart bombs. If you want to launch cruise missiles against tents and donkeys then something is not right.

 

[Blitzo]

I feel that unguided munitions are getting too much of a bad rap following the Ukraine conflict.

This is a form of rusty beach obstruction commonly used for shore defense in Taiwan. Much of the infrastructure has been built at a very cheap price several decades ago. Are you going to waste precious guided munitions against them, risk losing men who perform beach demolition, or will you use fast jets to blow holes in them after air defense has been reasonably suppressed?

Ground straffing is also a rudimentary skill that teaches pilots precision low altitude flying. It may look easy and unsophisticated, but it isn't. There is a reason why RuAF during the early 90s suspended it altogether, and it has to do with pilot competency.

The issue with unguided bombs or ground strafing is that you need your aircraft to fly at relatively low altitudes to accurately target even those sort of fixed relatively large targets.

Flying at lower altitudes exposes them unnecessarily to lower altitude rudimentary air defense systems like AAA or MANPADS.


The benefit of PGMs is if you are able to suppress or defeat enemy long range or medium range air defenses, it allows you to be able to defeat targets with impunity, without exposing your valuable fighter aircraft or strike fighter to low altitude short range air defenses.



Continuing to exercise with dumb bombs and unguided rockets is... Not the end of the world.

But expecting to use them against any sort of enemy outside of insurgents whose only air defense are some AKs, imo is unrealistic.