J-10 Thread IV

Mohsin77

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ougoah said:
Notching move against J-11A probably effective since they used some old pulse doppler based radar....
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Let's not assume that notching isn't effective against AESAs.

This is just a principle of how radars work, AESA or not.

The real advantage of AESAs is in their LPI characteristics. Case in point:

siegecrossbow said:
Originally the simulated engagement was supposed to be 2 vs 4 but the J-10 pilot’s wingman had to drop out due to technical difficulties. During the engagement, neither the J-10 nor the J-11A had support from ground based radar and the J-10 avoided using the radar as much as possible as the J-11As tried to corner it from four sides. J-11s deployed ECM and used radars extensively to sweep for the J-10, which managed to avoid radar tracking through a series of maneuvers. Since the J-10 could pin point the location of enemy radar, it allowed the pilot to target the J-11s one by one and take all of them down.
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This raises the question of the LPI characteristics of the J-10's AESA radar.

Why did it need to avoid using the radar "as much as possible"?
 
tphuang

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Mohsin77 said:
Let's not assume that notching isn't effective against AESAs.

This is just a principle of how radars work, AESA or not.

The real advantage of AESAs is in their LPI characteristics. Case in point:



This raises the question of the LPI characteristics of the J-10's AESA radar.

Why did it need to avoid using the radar "as much as possible"?
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J-10s did not have AESA radar. Generally, even with LPI property, you probably still don't want to turn on your radar against modern EW suites unless you have to. After all, you are still giving off RF that could get picked up by surrounding assets.
 
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Mohsin77 said:
Let's not assume that notching isn't effective against AESAs.

This is just a principle of how radars work, AESA or not.

The real advantage of AESAs is in their LPI characteristics. Case in point:



This raises the question of the LPI characteristics of the J-10's AESA radar.

Why did it need to avoid using the radar "as much as possible"?
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I thought it was talking about J-10A, which doesn't have AESA. The engagement happened in the early 2000's.
 
Mohsin77

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tphuang said:
J-10s did not have AESA radar. Generally, even with LPI property, you probably still don't want to turn on your radar against modern EW suites unless you have to. After all, you are still giving off RF that could get picked up by surrounding assets.
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Ah, so this encounter was the older J-10. That makes sense then.

As for AESA interception by passive sniffers, that would depend on how good your LPI is in relation to the enemy's sniffing capabilities. After all, if u cant use your AESA then it's not much of an advantage.
 
Gloire_bb

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tphuang said:
J-10s did not have AESA radar. Generally, even with LPI property, you probably still don't want to turn on your radar against modern EW suites unless you have to. After all, you are still giving off RF that could get picked up by surrounding assets.
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In a networked flight you may simply distribute emitters and shooters.
 
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