J-10 Thread IV

[by78]

Official video put out by Pakistan Air Force. Doesn't cover things we don't already know, but they did a very sharp job on presentation for an english audience.

Already shared.

 

[Phead128]

The problem with J10 is that it was designed as a quantity and 'good enough' jet. I suppose you can say that about F16 but bear in mind Rafale, Gripen, EFT are designed to be the only fighter that supposedly can handle all tasks for operating nation. How good will J10CP be in Pakistani service remains to be seen.

J-10A was quantity and 'good enough' jet.
J-10C has AESA+DSI+PL-15 which put it in the top-tier of 4.5 gen fighters.

Also, Pakistan bought J-10C primarily for it's A2A capability to counter Rafale (which it is highly competitive in A2A) so it doesn't really matter if it's multirole capability it not as robust, because Pakistan has other assets for multirole capability.

 

[Gloire_bb]

The problem with J10 is that it was designed as a quantity and 'good enough' jet. I suppose you can say that about F16 but bear in mind Rafale, Gripen, EFT are designed to be the only fighter that supposedly can handle all tasks for operating nation. How good will J10CP be in Pakistani service remains to be seen.

The question is, does this "quantity/good enough" make for actual (measurable) difference?
Missies fly worse, radars detect less targets, or anything else?

I.e. gripen is indeed very special. That doesn't change the fact that outside of its very special circumstances it tends to be rated worse than literally anyone else. Not always - but often.

In the end, all of them have a conops and have their strong sides. For J-10 its pretty straightforward - sleek a2a-focused airframe, large radome (largest in class actually). Yes, it is very straightforward. Straightforward doesn't mean bad - quite the opposite. Especially when networked.

 

[Akame]

A beautiful image

 

[tphuang]

According to SIPRI reporting, 25 J-10Cs cost $1.4 billion. A little more than the $50 million per that Shilao quoted. It's possible the $1.4 billion also included some other costs like spare parts.

Interestingly, I did not see an order for PL-15 and PL-10 in there.

 

[LCR34]

According to SIPRI reporting, 25 J-10Cs cost $1.4 billion. A little more than the $50 million per that Shilao quoted. It's possible the $1.4 billion also included some other costs like spare parts.

Interestingly, I did not see an order for PL-15 and PL-10 in there.

Probably consolidated in the package for JF17?

 

[antiterror13]

According to SIPRI reporting, 25 J-10Cs cost $1.4 billion. A little more than the $50 million per that Shilao quoted. It's possible the $1.4 billion also included some other costs like spare parts.

Interestingly, I did not see an order for PL-15 and PL-10 in there.

Do you think Pakistan would get very long soft loan from China, even with barter with seafood probably?

 

[Maikeru]

Why are the wing tips different on each side?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505214307193262084

 

[KampfAlwin]

Why are the wing tips different on each side?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505214307193262084

Refueling probe altering the aerodynamics maybe?

 

[PeoplesPoster]

Why are the wing tips different on each side?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1505214307193262084

There some weird photoshopping going on in that image. Those two are the same plane mirrored. Also leading edges of the wings seem like they were edited and ended up looking blurred and clone stamped.

the wing tips are probably the same, image editor most likely messed up.