J-10 Thread IV

[tphuang]

that's what I thought too. I don't see difference between this any batch 01 J-10Bs. Maybe the changes are all on the inside.

On the subject of AAM, maybe it's newly developed for internal weapon bay.

 

[Deino]

You asked a similar question a while back, and I provided an answer -- at this stage I think the answer is the same, with one difference (bolded below)

https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/j-10-thread-iv.t7305/page-40#post-369324


At present:

• Confirmed: J-10Bs produced, powered by Al-31s with one large batch complete
• Confirmed: more J-10Bs powered by Al-31s (batch two)
• Confirmed: J-10Cs powered by Al-31s undergoing flight tests, likely preparing for production soon
• Confirmed: one J-10 prototype airframe (likely J-10B, possibly 1035 from a few years back) seen doing flight tests with a WS-10

In future:

• J-10B (powered by Al-31) production will be superseded by J-10C in mass production, where an initial batch or more may be powered by Al-31
• J-10Cs in production will eventually be mass produced with WS-10s

Arent Block 02 aircraft J-10Cs?

To admit so far I thought it was clear but now it's getting confusing again (at least for me) !

If You compare the details, then this is for sure an AL-31FN Series 3-powered Batch 02 aircraft ... but is it a J-10B or J-10C ??

It clearly has the new antenna on the tail (but is this enough to call it a C ?) but it lacks the one under the nose behind the radome (so still a B ??) ... and the other one on the spine can't be seen. Really strange.






At least Huitong calls it a J-10C:

The latest images (November 2015) indicated that the production of 02 batch continues. These are thought to be the improved

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s with VLOC antennas installed on top of the vertical tailfin and carrying the new PL-15 AAMs.

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Deino

 

[Deino]

PS: as such it would be interesting to know the c/n of the latest AL-31FN birds just delivered to a unit as well as the numbers for these two WS-10B-powered birds.

 

[Totoro]

the missile bodies themselves are as long as pl-12. ratio of plane length to missile length indicates so.

 

[Deino]

the missile bodies themselves are as long as pl-12. ratio of plane length to missile length indicates so.

Indeed, I'm no longer sure that it is a PL-15. Most likely simply a PL-12-body.

 

[JayBird]

A picture posted by ShahryarHedayat on the Persian Gulf & Middle East Military News thread is kind of interesting. Look at that humongous J-10 painting behind the two generals in the background. It's that the Chinese subliminal message of "Buy J-10! Buy J-10!" to the Iranian delegation?

 

[SinoSoldier]

A picture posted by ShahryarHedayat on the Persian Gulf & Middle East Military News thread is kind of interesting. Look at that humongous J-10 painting behind the two generals in the background. It's that the Chinese subliminal message of "Buy J-10! Buy J-10!" to the Iranian delegation? View attachment 21192

The J-10A cannot be exported due to engines.

 

[JayBird]

The J-10A cannot be exported due to engines.

China can always cooperate with Russia to sell the J-10A with AL-31F engines just like JF-17 for Pakistan. It's not like China is selling J-11 to the Iranian.


IRIAF Commander Brigadier-General Hassan Shah-Safi : Hey, nice J-10 painting behind us General Ma.

China's Air Force Commander General Ma Xiaotian: You like it Hassan ? Maybe 2-3 dozen to go on discount?

 

[Domino]

What's the chance missile hanging with J-10 B is SD-10 B ? We've been hearing rumors about SD-10 B since 2011

 

[Franklin]

I think that 201 and 1051 are two different planes. These new planes wee see here are from the "201 line". The "1051 line" would come later either batch 3 or even 4.

As for the AL-31FN series 3 engines. Don't CAC still have over 100 of those engines in stock ? They have already paid for them so they might as well use them. What else are they going to do with them ? I think my excitement of J-10B mass produced with WS-10B was premature.