J-10 Thread IV

[crash8pilot]

This means low visibility markings has no strategic value .....

If PLAAF went for such low visibility markings scheme then there should be a logic or strategy behind that, correct?

Low identification markings will make it harder for western intelligence apparatus to track exactly how many planes the PLA has in its inventory, where these planes are based, trends and movements of these planes (i.e. planes from a certain base tend to patrol or respond to a certain area), modifications and upgrades made to certain batches (implications on capability and mission sets), and ultimately the underlying strategy of the PLA.

All these are important factors in formulating an air tasking order, how to adjust current offensive/defensive counterair tactics to go up against the PLA, as well as the overall war fighting strategy against the PLA.

 

[plawolf]

You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot force it to drink. The reason and benefit from low visibility markings have been explained in good faith any number of times, ignoring them and asking the question incessantly instead is starting to feel less and less like genuine questioning and more and more like silly point scoring.

 

[Deino]

If PLAAF went for such low visibility markings scheme then there should be a logic or strategy behind that, correct?

I and @plawolf already explained, but you seem not to be happy with our explanation since you expect some sort of strategic value, where none is. And again, why should there any strategic vaule?

Maybe you should lower your expectations from a "strategic value" to "tactical benefit" ... then it makes sense.

 

[xyqq]

A J-10A dropping a bomb, from either a rear-fuselage pylon or the inner-wing pylon on the left side (both hardly visible). The right side does not have any of those, making an asymmetric pylon arrangement never-before-seen.



It is a little bit hard to tell the size of the bomb from a distance. If it is 500kg, the bomb can only be dropped from the inner-wing pylon (that hardpoint is typically for an external tank).



If it is 250kg, the bomb can be dropped from a fuselage pylon as well.

 

[Ali Qizilbash]

I and @plawolf already explained, but you seem not to be happy with our explanation since you expect some sort of strategic value, where none is. And again, why should there any strategic vaule?

Maybe you should lower your expectations from a "strategic value" to "tactical benefit" ... then it makes sense.

@Deino @plawolf Come on Guys, @timepass just asked a COMMON SENSE QUESTION. She is just asking... you know... Dont be too hard on her

 

[sequ]

Is this a repost?

 

[xyqq]

Not sure if from the recent Shaheen IX exercise but anyway it shows how much low-viz the new PLAAF low-visibility markings are.

(Image via Cai Zhai at FB)

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Here is the original posted by ChinaMil.com with the number erased:



Original note: A J-10 fighter jet attached to an aviation brigade of the air force under the PLA Southern Theater Command takes off for an aerial combat training exercise in late November, 2020. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Wang Guoyun)

 

[xyqq]

Two J-10Cs sharing the ground power unit (GPU) and air-start trucks in between:

 

[xyqq]

A cold day:



Probably some sleet:

 

[Deino]

@Deino @plawolf Come on Guys, @timepass just asked a COMMON SENSE QUESTION. She is just asking... you know... Dont be too hard on her

No he - or in fact she - did n NOT ask a common sense question, in fact it was a most stupid one and after two explanations she did not understand and wasn't either able or willing to explain, why a low visibility marking should add any strategic value. As such adding such a plain provocative and insulting post is trolling. I must admit, this is exactly what @Bltizo meant with "degrading the level of SDF" and "low quality post". One week ban!