J-10 Thread IV

TerraN_EmpirE

Tyrant King
the J-10 in-contrast has to compete against the MiG-29, F16, Gripen, etc, etc.
F16 absolutely, Grippen no doubt, FA50 Sure but Mig29 in export has a huge iron weight on it compared to J10. Two engines. That single engine is smaller lighter and more critically for export cheaper to build and maintain. It demands less on engine wear.
West that is not all to willing to dole out the likes of F-16s for sale, most 2nd and 3rd world nations have little too choose from
F16 is number 2 of fighter built with over 4600 and still building. Second only to the almost 12000 Mig21 fighters.
The Russian 4th gens are a failure compared to F16 in terms of ordered units and national users. The biggest issue for them being the cost. National Air forces of even a moderate size who previously operated hundreds of Mig21 could barely field a dozen Flanker or Fulcrum. Well equally sized force could field dozens. And there are still orders coming in.

Until China reliably demonstrates the J-10 with an indigenous engine
Yet as the FC 1 proved it's not an absolute need. Infact offering with the ability to use common engines can be a selling point for end users. F15 and F16 both have done well on the export market and they share engine types. Flanker users could by export J10 and share parts reducing costs and maintaining capabilities. So using the Russian engine can be a good thing.
Designing a new engine for J10 would be nice. But that commonality between the new J10 and SU27 is a potential selling point. Farther more a new J10 engine at least in theory could be a retrofit for Flanker.

J10 has a lot to offer as we see it today both the older and J10 B configuration.
 

SinoSoldier

Colonel
EW "extension suite", wingtip stations for su-27/35 family.
J-10 has it too, but as a properly suspended pod, with all associated drag.

Are you referring to the L-175 Khibiny or the L005 Sorbtsiya? How are you able to conclude that, by having this one additional ECM pod on its wingtip, the Su-35 achieves an overall superior radar/EW performance to the J-10C without accounting for other subsystems? The J-10C also has sensor arrays on its leading edge as pointed out by Henri K., which could be similar.

Turkey SAM deal.(one spoiled by combined nato pressure, because "free" world is so free in its choices)

Is there any evidence that the FD-2000's radar system was "copied" from a Russian one?

It mustn't. But in just a couple of years it became so widely accepted on this forum what it suddenly became the other way around.

It really wasn't ever since China stopped importing airborne Russian avionics with their Su-30MK2 purchase well over a decade ago.
 

taxiya

Brigadier
Registered Member
Is it just me or does the burner exhaust for this TVC engine look different from previous WS-10 burners?
If you mean the interior of the nozzle, it is different from WS-10. Based on my limited knowledge, it has to be different due to TVC. Non-TVC WS-10 uses ejector
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. There is an inner tube and outer tube as can be seen here
J-10B-fighter-with-homemade-engine-in-trial-flight.jpg


TVC seems to leave no room or place for this (ejector) arrangement, so I think TVC WS-10 is using Convergence/Divergence nozzle.
 

latenlazy

Brigadier
If you mean the interior of the nozzle, it is different from WS-10. Based on my limited knowledge, it has to be different due to TVC. Non-TVC WS-10 uses ejector
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. There is an inner tube and outer tube as can be seen here
J-10B-fighter-with-homemade-engine-in-trial-flight.jpg


TVC seems to leave no room or place for this (ejector) arrangement, so I think TVC WS-10 is using Convergence/Divergence nozzle.
That’s what I thought. Makes me wonder why they went with the ejector nozzle for other versions of the Taihang.
 
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