J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

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Franklin

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That is a photo of prototype 1031 with a AL-31 engine. There is only one J-10B prototype with a WS-10A engine 1035. Where are the pictures of new J-10B's lining up at CAC. We have seen them being assembled at CAC in early july. That's now 3,5 months ago now. Where are the planes ?
 

Deino

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Nice image ... but it must be an older one since 1031 has already been noted in a new one-grey scheme with yellow numbers.

By the way best GREETINGS from Crete / Greek .... :eek:

Deino
 

Hyperwarp

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I noticed this J-10 model in the following video -
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Notice the missile configuration. Is just an inaccurate model or a suggestion that AAM can be carried under the belly?

J10A-Model_1.jpg
 

Blitzo

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As much as I would like the j-10 to boast such additional A2A capability... It simply doesn't look feasible on the existing plane and it is probably just an inaccurate model.
 

plawolf

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I don't know about that, we have never seen J10s carry AAMs on its intake hardpoints, but theoretically there isn't anything stopping them from putting missiles there, especially not BVR PL12s which are dropped before engine start, so its not like the exhaust from the missile is going to present engine inestation problems for the J10 as you might experience with a rail launched IRAAM.

The flanker carries two BVRAAMs under its intakes in a similar fashion with the tip of the missiles protruding slightly in from of the intake after all, so it certainly looks viable. And the hardpoints can certainly handle the weight.

I am guessing that the J10 was originally designed to be able to hang missiles under its intake, and I do remember other scale models showing that. But we all know that the J10 suffered some intake strength issues after switching engines midway during development which led them to have to jerry rig those side support brackets. So purhaps that is why we very seldomly see those hardpoints used at all, because to hang loads under those hardpoints regularly with subject the already weaker then desired intake joint to additional stress and strain which might cause maintenance issues or even shorten the useful lives of the planes significantly.

However, an interesting question would be whether such a capacity exists but has never been show off in public before for the above reasons, or whether the potential for the option was originally designed in, but ultimately never exercised because of the above list reasons.
 

no_name

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From what I heard the support brackets are not there for reinforcing structure strength in the sense that they bear loads but are angled foil plates to direct airflow (in the notch above the intake) in a way to eliminate resonance vibration at certain speed range.
 

fasiiih

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J-10b Does not have those support bracket, n we have already seen it with bombs, why cant it hold a an AAM.
 

Munir

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J-10b Does not have those support bracket, n we have already seen it with bombs, why cant it hold a an AAM.

If you want to launch a bvr the smoke will choke your engine. Either it must pushed away before igniting rocket engine or launched far away from intake of the plane. There are examples of planes that had bad experience.
 

kyuryu

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Does anybody know why the J-10 doesn't mount AAM's on the wing tips like the F-16 or Lavi?

It's quite normal to see F-16's with AIM-120's mounted on the wingtip pylons freeing up the wing pylons for other stores.

Any clues?

Kyuryu
 

plawolf

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Does anybody know why the J-10 doesn't mount AAM's on the wing tips like the F-16 or Lavi?

It's quite normal to see F-16's with AIM-120's mounted on the wingtip pylons freeing up the wing pylons for other stores.

Any clues?

Kyuryu

Because the J10 uses a very different wing design, one which does not have wingtip rails.
 
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