J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[Quickie]

But the nose of an aircraft has limited space though, so there's a real array size limit as well.

In that sense, yes.

 

[escobar]

2000 t/r modules for J-10???? to many for me
if it is true it is probably for 4th generation fighter

 

[escobar]

There was a rumor that the J-10B AESA has 2000 modules.

It is apparently a smaller variant of the one on J-20, J-15, and J-11B, and a larger variant of the one on JF-17 Block II.

where did you get 2000t/r module?
i read 1000 1200 t/r module

 

[Hyperwarp]

Regarding the 30km - 60km for the J-10B IRST, I assume that 60km for target non-A/B tail-on & 30km non-A/B head-on? Not as high PIRATE, OSF or OLS-35 but I think its much better than any Flanker variant in the PLAAF & PLAN. Pretty good start.

I also noticed the 3^m2 @ 120km, and J-11B RADAR 3^m2 @ 150km by that :

J-11B RADAR : 1^m2 @ ~115km
Type-1473 (J-10A) : 1^m2 @ ~90km
KLJ-7 (FC-1) : 1^m2 @ ~70km
Type-1492? (F-8T) : 1^m2 @ ~60km

Would be interesting to see who spots who first in a mock fight

(excluding the J-8F/F-8T off-course )

 

[SinoSoldier]

where did you get 2000t/r module?
i read 1000 1200 t/r module

It could be talking about Type 1475 instead.

Most of my other sources say 1152 for J-10B.

 

[SinoSoldier]

Regarding the 30km - 60km for the J-10B IRST, I assume that 60km for target non-A/B tail-on & 30km non-A/B head-on? Not as high PIRATE, OSF or OLS-35 but I think its much better than any Flanker variant in the PLAAF & PLAN. Pretty good start.

I also noticed the 3^m2 @ 120km, and J-11B RADAR 3^m2 @ 150km by that :

J-11B RADAR : 1^m2 @ ~115km
Type-1473 (J-10A) : 1^m2 @ ~90km
KLJ-7 (FC-1) : 1^m2 @ ~70km
Type-1492? (F-8T) : 1^m2 @ ~60km

Would be interesting to see who spots who first in a mock fight

(excluding the J-8F/F-8T off-course )

Where did you get the information?

The J-11B radar is still not released.

Are you referring to its original radar or the AESA?

 

[challenge]

refering to mechanical radar.but there is strong possibility that some small J-11 unit may have fitted with PESA.

 

[Hyperwarp]

Where did you get the information? The J-11B radar is still not released.
Are you referring to its original radar or the AESA?

Was referring to A.Man's Post :

... J-10A 1473 radar probably 700mm in diameter, 3 m? found effective the target distance is about 120 km, J-11B 1493 radar approximately 960 mm in diameter, 3 m? ...

This not for AESA radars. They are MSA RADARs for the J-10/10A & J-11B.

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gives the same values.

Type-1473 (J-10/10A) : 1^m2 @ ~115km/3^m2 @ ~120km
Type 1474? (J-11B) : 1^m2 @ ~90km/3^m2 @ ~150km

Off-course The the above are internet info unlike the KLJ-7 & Type-1492? which are officially available.

 

[challenge]

1M~115km?!
detection range for APG-69 against 1m^m2 is 80km,and since J-10A radar nose is slightly smaller than F-16 ,the range might below 80km range.

 

[Hyperwarp]

1M~115km?!
detection range for APG-69 against 1m^m2 is 80km,and since J-10A radar nose is slightly smaller than F-16 ,the range might below 80km range.

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is the RADAR designed for the F-20 Tigershark and used by some F-5 operators. It's range is much less than that.

I assume you are referring the AN/APG-68 which used by the F-16. Latest version v9 has

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more range of the previous version. The Zhuk-AE range was improved from 100km to 190km for 1m^2 target by improving the backend and not the number of modules themselves.

Even export

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for the FC-1 has range of greater than 105km for a 5m^2 target (Which translates to over 70km for a 1m^2 target).

PS: how do you know the volumes of the J-10A nose?