J-10 Thread III (Closed to posting)

[kwaigonegin]

does anyone know how much drag or even RCS the refueling probe is compare to the boom type of air refueling where there is no protrusion? I'm surprised the Bravo didn't go the boom type but come to think of it I don't think PLAN has boom type tankers. All of their aeriel refuellers are the probe and drogue type.
At the very least they could've at least made the probe retractable on the J10B or even the A for that matter instead of just sticking out like that.

 

[Lion]

does anyone know how much drag or even RCS the refueling probe is compare to the boom type of air refueling where there is no protrusion? I'm surprised the Bravo didn't go the boom type but come to think of it I don't think PLAN has boom type tankers. All of their aeriel refuellers are the probe and drogue type.
At the very least they could've at least made the probe retractable on the J10B or even the A for that matter instead of just sticking out like that.

Protruding refueling probe eliminate the possible failure of mechanism for retractable. Yes, it causes drag but the good point is there. Rafale too opt for this option. PLAN is always practical. If you want retracble refuleing probe. Wait for J20, cause the protruding probe is sure bad for RCS..

 

[plawolf]

The J15 actually have a retractable refueling probe, so China does have the technology for it.

The only reason I can see for not including it is an issue of space in the nose, especially with the new radar and IRST as well as other new avionics and subsystems they have stuffed in the J10B.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Pretty neat J-10B video:

[video=youtube;eVKsgoeF2g8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVKsgoeF2g8&feature=player_embedded#at=97[/video]

 

[no_name]

It could be that the space needed for the retracting refueling probe mechanism is taken up by the canard servos.

 

[Martian]

J-10A Vigorous Dragon with PL-12 missile (new picture)

J-10A with PL-12 missile

[Note: Thank you to HouShanghai and Rx8800 for the picture.]

 

[siegecrossbow]

J-10B also performed some small diameter turns and rolls on the 18th. Waiting for the videos now:

Thnx to houshanghai from the Chinese Defence Forum!

 

[Martian]

J-10B Vigorous Dragon August 18, 2011 test flight

J-10B Vigorous Dragon pre-flight check by engineers and/or technicians.

J-10B PT05 with WS-10A engine taxis onto the runway.

J-10B prepares to takeoff.

J-10B is airborne.

J-10B engages in maneuvers, such as climbs, dives, and sharp turns. (See SiegeCrossbow's post directly above)

J-10B finishes the flight test and comes in for landing.

J-10B touches down on runway.

J-10B deploys its drag chute for quicker deceleration.

[Note: Thank you to HouShanghai for the pictures.]

 

[tphuang]

news from CAC on this avic1 article. There is a picture of the bottom of J-10B's radome. It just talks about CAC working hard to finish production duties.

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[Deino]

Besides that has anyone a clear photo of the latest J-10A and AS from CAC showing their tails clear, so that we ca identify the next unit ?

Deino